2026-10-08 - City Council

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17:55>> good evening ladies and gentlemen.

17:58>> That's going to be the

18:09Thank you all for coming this evening.

18:11Uh

18:13this is your Irving City Council. We'll

18:15be starting here within probably

18:17hopefully 30 seconds. But I want to

18:20thank you all for being here and coming

18:22out and joining us. Um, it makes our job

18:25that much more, I think, happier for us

18:28to see many of our constituents, many of

18:31our friends, and people that, uh, really

18:34care about Irving. So, thank you for

18:36being here. At this point, uh, we, where

18:41am I? Organizational service

18:42announcement. Chenet, do we have one?

18:46>> No, sir, we do not.

18:48>> Okay. Thank you very much. At this

18:50point, um, invocation. Will you please

18:53stand? The invocation this evening will

18:55be given by Pastor Shane Whim from the

18:58Wood Haven Presbyterian Church of

19:00Irving.

19:02Thank you, Mr. Mayor, esteemed

19:04councilmen, and our wonderful city

19:07staff. It is a pleasure to be with you

19:09once again. I invite all of us to take a

19:12moment uh to join together in a spirit

19:15of prayer in whatever way is appropriate

19:18for you. Let's pray.

19:22Holy one, we come before you tonight

19:24grateful uh for our city.

19:28For those who protect us,

19:31for those who look out for us, for those

19:34who advocate for us.

19:37God, we are thankful that we have

19:41a city that cares. And God, we ask that

19:44in this time of divisiveness

19:47during elections, that you would help

19:50remind us what we have in common,

19:53the common goal we share to benefit

19:56everyone at all levels of our society.

20:01God, I pray that we would make good

20:03decisions for our city, that you would

20:06give our leaders wisdom and courage to

20:09do what is right and best for the

20:11citizens of Irving,

20:14and that we would be guided

20:17by your way, and that we would consider

20:21morality above everything else. Lord, we

20:24pray for our city and we thank you for

20:27all that you're doing here." and all

20:29God's people said, "Amen."

20:33>> Join me in the pledge. I pledge

20:36allegiance to the flag of the United

20:38States of America and to the republic

20:41for which it stands, one nation under

20:44God, indivisible, with liberty and

20:48justice for all.

20:51I aliance to the Texas one

20:56and indivisible.

21:04Thank you, Councilman Conowit. Uh, at

21:07this time, um, we're going to go into I

21:11want to make an announcement real quick

21:12because a gentleman

21:14um has asked to be speak. uh we will let

21:18that happen at the end of our our works

21:22session and what we do this evening as

21:24far as finishing up our our uh evening.

21:28U so we will have a comment by this

21:30gentleman and I think at that time

21:33Chennet if you will call Don David I'd

21:35be fine. Okay.

21:39Okay.

21:41City manager Hillman city operations

21:43update. No update yet, sir.

21:48>> Thank you. Uh we have consent items uh

21:52from 2 to 26.

21:55Um Chennai, do we have anyone signed up

21:57to speak on any consent agenda item?

22:00>> Yes, it's actually Don David that is in

22:03opposition to speak. It's your

22:06discretion as to whether or not you want

22:09to pull it off. Mayor, would you like to

22:11pull it off?

22:14U

22:14>> number four.

22:25>> I'll get to that.

22:26>> Don David, are you here?

22:30>> Mayor, would you like to allow him to

22:32speak or No.

22:33>> Well, I'm going to look at it right now.

22:40No, you're going to have to wait till

22:42the end of our work session. Thank you.

22:44>> No, he's allowed to speak on items on

22:46the agenda.

22:47>> I'm sorry.

22:49>> He is allowed to speak on items on the

22:51agenda.

22:52>> Okay. Well, Mr. David, come on up.

23:00>> Thanks for allowing me to speak. My name

23:02is Don Dow, uh, Fondonder of Better BRX.

23:05I'm here to tell you that city of Irving

23:07is being scammed by the pharmacy benefit

23:10man B man B man B man B man B man B man

23:10B man B man B man B man man man man man

23:10man man man man man man man man man man

23:10man man man man man man man man manager

23:11hiding in your blue cross contract um if

23:14your health cost is increasing in your

23:16budget uh year to year it's not because

23:18your employees are getting sicker is

23:20because you've handed these PBMs a blank

23:22check to charge you whatever they want.

23:24Isn't it crazy how uh the same generic

23:27drug can cost $80 in one city and $4 in

23:30another and how they can cause different

23:33prices from pharmacy to pharmacy. The

23:35problem is the pharmacy middleman and

23:37you don't have to wait for Congress to

23:39make a difference. Local city councils,

23:41school boards, state agencies are

23:42signing these blind deals with unethical

23:45PBMs right now. You guys approved a

23:47resolution with Blue Cross Blue Shield

23:50of Texas and you're paying over seven

23:52figures for that administration. They

23:54hand your pharmacy benefit to Prime,

23:56which is a multi-billion dollar

23:58middleman that Blue Cross co-owns. Uh

24:01Dallas signed the same exact deal with

24:03Blue Cross and Prime in like last year.

24:06And they thought they were getting into

24:07the deal until estimates show that

24:09they're losing $3 to $9 million every

24:11year. And if they try to audit their own

24:13money, they have to pay $15,000 of a fee

24:16and use a PBM appointed audit. On a

24:19self-funded plan, the council decides on

24:22who the PBM is. Uh, so yours is expiring

24:25soon. So before you renew, just ask

24:26three questions. Is it 100% pass

24:28through? Who keeps the manufacturer

24:30rebates? And does the city give full

24:32claim levels audit rights? Um, and you

24:34don't have to guess if there's a better

24:36way. Forward already proved it. Um, they

24:38fired Optimx on the big three PBMs and

24:40use a transparent one. Uh, and there's

24:42an open source transparent contract

24:44published by Mark Cuban. It's available

24:47at a click of a button online. You can

24:49go on betterbyrx.com

24:51and I've used it to estimate that cities

24:53around North Texas can save 25 to$ 28

24:56million combined if they just read and

24:58negotiate their contracts.

25:00>> And unlike Holmes Murphy, who's your

25:02consulting company, I have no benefit in

25:04this. I've just been going around city

25:05to city.

25:07>> What was that?

25:08>> Have one minute left.

25:09>> Yeah, I see that. Um, so after this

25:11speech, if you still tell your firemen,

25:13your policemen, your employees that the

25:14deductibles are going up because of

25:16health insurance costs going up, it's

25:18not true. It's literally because you're

25:19not looking at your contract that you

25:21signed, which is one of the big P three

25:24PBMs. So,

25:26>> Mr. Dodd, you didn't provide me an

25:28address. May I have an address?

25:30>> Um, I didn't put an address on the on

25:32the thing.

25:33>> I'm asking you for an address.

25:34>> I I post on social media, so I I don't

25:36want to put my address on. Yeah. Sorry.

25:38Thank Yeah.

25:38>> Thank you. Thank Thank you.

25:41>> Um, city manager, I think the item that

25:45we were just dealing with, I think

25:47that's dealing with our budget. Would

25:49you want to respond to this?

25:50>> Yes. Thank you, Mr. Dodd, for coming

25:52down and and speaking. Just as a note to

25:54council, the item number four, the

25:56budget adjustments are for the advanced

25:58funding of our bond projects as well as

26:01for an Irving Arts Center capital

26:04improvement. Just just as an FYI on what

26:06the budget adjustment is for. Thank you.

26:07>> Okay. Thank you. Uh thank you Mr. David

26:12for coming down. Appreciate that. At

26:15this time the consent agenda items 20 2

26:18to 26. We're going to hold on item

26:21number 18 for correcting up on the uh on

26:26the actual amount that was uh presented

26:29to us and so we'll take it right after

26:31that. Do I see a motion for items 2 to

26:3426?

26:35>> Motion to approve the consent.

26:36>> Is there a second? Second the motion.

26:38>> Thank you. Show your vote.

26:46>> Yeah.

26:50Okay. At this time, um let's bring back

26:53item 18. Um the item is the following.

26:58Resolution approving statement of work

27:01and authorizing expenditure for

27:03Northstand Communications Inc. DBA

27:05Blackbox network services and the total

27:08estimated amount of a,58954469.

27:14>> Motion to approve.

27:15>> It's a correction.

27:16>> Yeah.

27:17>> Okay. Yeah.

27:18>> Is there good? Thank you. Show your

27:20vote.

27:24>> Okay. Thank you all.

27:26>> Do they got an award to give or

27:28recognition?

27:28>> Yep.

27:34At this time, I think I'm going to be

27:36down front uh giving a Is it a

27:38proclamation or an award? What are we

27:40doing?

27:41>> Okay. Well, there you are.

28:00>> Hi, my name is Rebecca Ortiz. I'm the

28:03athletics and rentals coordinator for

28:05Irving Parks and Recreation. Um, in

28:08celebration of disability awareness

28:10month, Irving Advisory Committee on

28:12Disabilities developed the disability

28:14poster contest. Um, Irving ISD Parks and

28:17Recreation and the Advisory Committee uh

28:20partnered to sponsor this annual contest

28:22open to all fourth graders in Irving. We

28:25received several creative entries this

28:27year from very talented students. The

28:30city council members and I would like to

28:32recognize those chosen to receive

28:34honorable mention and first place for

28:36their entries. Uh three posters were

28:39chosen to receive honorable mention. Um

28:42two will be only recognized tonight. So

28:44when I call your name, please come down

28:46to the front and line up behind me on

28:49the stage. Uh Deborah Alba,

28:55[applause]

29:03Helen Deafia.

29:05[applause]

29:10[applause]

29:11>> Congratulations.

29:17Um, at this time it is my pleasure to

29:19announce the students receiving first

29:21place honors and I ask them to join us

29:23on the stage as well when your name is

29:25called.

29:27Ian Zlaya,

29:30[applause]

29:40Jeffrey Cruz

29:42[applause]

29:54and Camila Velasquez. [applause]

30:06All right, please join me in

30:08congratulating all these talented

30:09artists. We'll take a couple pictures

30:11with everyone here on the stage and then

30:13we can proceed down the aisle for more

30:16pictures with the posters.

30:19>> Parents, if y'all want to come up and

30:21get closer, you're welcome to.

30:25>> Ladies and gentlemen, this is really a

30:28special um award for these young young

30:32boys and girls because they represent

30:35our future and they are participating.

30:39Thank you for your time and being part

30:41of making this happen. So it gives me a

30:44great honor to do this and not only give

30:46them their awards. So let's give them a

30:48rand. [applause]

30:54[applause]

31:08Anybody

31:11want to come down?

31:13>> You want to take down?

31:26>> Thank you.

31:34Thank you.

32:08Okay, we're now to our zoning cases. Uh,

32:14case number 27.

32:17I understand the applicant has withdrawn

32:20this case. Um, motion needed to

32:23withdraw. Do I have a motion?

32:28Motion to withdraw.

32:30>> Second.

32:31>> There's a second.

32:33>> Thank you. Show your vote.

32:42>> Do we got to do these?

32:45>> Should we do those now?

32:50>> I don't know what the hell are we going

32:51to do?

32:52>> We have two ordinances before we get to

32:53the zoning cases.

32:54>> Okay.

32:58Oh I part of the consent.

33:01>> Okay,

33:04>> they're done.

33:04>> Yep, they're done.

33:05>> Okay, we are complete on the consent

33:07agenda. So now we're going to go to

33:09zoning cases.

33:11Okay, item number 27 we've just voted on

33:15and that has now been approved for uh I

33:19guess withdrawal.

33:23Okay. Okay.

33:24>> Just one second.

33:25>> Yeah.

33:26>> Yeah. Just for clarification, the

33:27consent agenda did include items 25 and

33:3026. So, they have been approved. We do,

33:32Mayor, we have now a motion on the floor

33:35on item number 27.

33:39Motion in a second. So,

33:42>> we just voted.

33:43>> So, we have voted on that one.

33:44>> Yeah. So, we we approved the withdrawal.

33:48Okay. I think I'm I think I'm still in

33:50sync. Okay. 28.

33:53Uh

33:56Joson, are you here? Okay. Well,

33:59ordinance 2026-262

34:03uh CUP conditional use permit to operate

34:07short-term rental in the R-6 single

34:10family district, 620 Cox Drive. Chené,

34:14do we have anyone signed up to speak on

34:16this item?

34:18>> Yes, sir. We have two speakers. Um, Miss

34:21Lydia Hong as the applicant and then we

34:25have um, and I'm I'm gonna butcher this

34:28because I can't read your writing. I'm

34:29sorry. Baral

34:32Yaz Kunloo.

34:37>> Okay, we're you please come forward.

34:46Okay. So, hopefully it's right here.

34:51[clears throat]

34:51>> Good evening, mayor and member of

34:55city council. My name is Lady Aong and I

34:59am the property owner of 620 Cox Drive.

35:03Before I begin, I would like to express

35:06something important.

35:08I sincerely hope my application will be

35:11evaluated fairly and impartially

35:15based on the CD ordinances, criteria,

35:17and facts, not on personal relationship,

35:21neighborhood preferences, or speculation

35:24about what might happen.

35:28Every property owner deserve the same

35:30fair and objective consideration

35:32regardless of who they know or what

35:35street their property is located on.

35:39>> Wasn't this the one that

35:41>> I understand some neighbor has expressed

35:43concern. I respect no concern.

35:46>> Okay. However, the concern is about what

35:49may happen should not be treated as

35:53evident that vi violation will happen.

35:58I am an experience experience short-term

36:02rental with proven track record of

36:05five-star gas review. Several of my

36:08guests have specifically mentioned

36:10feeling safe during their stay.

36:15I believe property should be evaluated

36:19on facts, compliance, responsible

36:22management, not general opinion or

36:26speculation.

36:29Under urban ordinances, one short-term

36:31rental is permitted per street subject

36:35to the city approving approval

36:37requirements.

36:39Currently, Cotai have no permitted

36:41short-term rental.

36:44My property meet particular requirement

36:47and I respectfully ask that it received

36:49same objective consideration as property

36:54elsewhere in Irvin

36:58at 620 Cox. I safeguard include

37:02guest screening, review guest

37:04information, rental history and purpose

37:07of traveling, strict occupancy, maximum

37:10of six, no party, no event. Parking

37:14restriction only park on my property,

37:17nohere else. Noise monitoring

37:21quiet hour begin at 10 and noise

37:24monitoring device inside the property.

37:28Active management exterior security

37:30camera prom responses to complain

37:35full compliance with city of Irvin. The

37:38responsibility the responsibility is

37:40mine

37:42to enforce the rule address concern

37:44immediately and protect my neighbor

37:47peace. I respectfully ask the council to

37:51evaluate my application and approve it

37:54with reasonable enforcable condition

37:57that protect the neighborhood and hold

37:59me accountable.

38:01Thank you for your time and

38:03consideration.

38:05>> Thank you. The next speaker,

38:11>> Mr. Bar roll.

38:14[clears throat]

38:25>> Thank you for the opportunity.

38:28I came all the way from Keller to here

38:30in 33 minutes.

38:32>> Please um say your name and address.

38:35>> Yazolu

38:37>> and address. I we are a new member city

38:40of urban. I run a restaurant.

38:44>> Please say your address.

38:46>> My address.

38:46>> Address for the record.

38:49>> Uh

38:51>> 620 Cox try right. Yeah, we are a new

38:54member. Uh

38:58and I wasn't at the last meeting.

39:02Lady Hong was there.

39:05I watched by my phone technology helps

39:09show it that every single of my

39:12customers was there.

39:14They looked at it and they all said that

39:18she treated unfairly.

39:21What why it was and what I saw was they

39:25were asking did you buy the house

39:28purposely?

39:30We have freedom. We can buy a house

39:33anywhere, any corner, south, north,

39:38rich area, poor area.

39:42Neighbors have concerns, especially Mr.

39:45Chris next door to us.

39:48Miss Michelle was speaker that day.

39:52Mr. Chris has concerns about the safety

39:56because of the house close to the

39:58school.

40:00>> [clears throat]

40:03>> There is no record shows that there is

40:08any kind of security concern

40:12STRs are creating.

40:16They can search and look anywhere.

40:20One detail from Lydia Ho's record, she

40:24said that she's five-star operator.

40:27You don't earn that overnight. It takes

40:30two years. Every single uh customer,

40:35one location, two years,

40:38129

40:41customer left reviews,

40:44128 five-star.

40:48Most [clears throat] of them 75 of them

40:51female

40:53customers. I don't know how female

40:54customers.

40:55>> One minute left. can be a danger to

41:00neighbors.

41:03The other one 48

41:06uh reviews 33 of them 15 male

41:12again 4.9

41:14same way

41:16Mr. Michelle says how you going to reach

41:19>> please just address please just address

41:22the governing body

41:23>> right one hour is the city is

41:27considering that if the owners can reach

41:30there

41:32she has security cameras outside inside

41:35which is allow allowed by legally

41:38city also allows any residents any

41:42corner of the city to every street one

41:45house only limit

41:49And

41:52as I know that many of us using the

41:55Airbnb

41:55>> three three minutes sir that's your time

41:59>> expired.

42:00>> Expired.

42:00>> No problem.

42:02>> Thank you. And we have two more speakers

42:03in opposition. Um John Christopher

42:06Arrington and Melissa Burnham.

42:16My name is John Christopher Arrington.

42:18Most of you know me as Chris for the 39

42:22years that I've been here in Irving. Uh

42:24my wife, however, she's been here since

42:271969.

42:29We understand from what Miss Hong said

42:31that uh it is a beautiful neighborhood.

42:34It's a fantastic neighborhood. And she

42:37said earlier this week that the reason

42:39she chose our neighborhood was because

42:42it was a beautiful neighborhood. It was

42:45calm. It was quiet. It fit her business

42:48plan. I think that's great. We also

42:52heard stories prior to those stories

42:55that she bought it for her folks. U I'm

42:58not going to go into whether she bought

42:59it for her folks or she bought it for

43:01herself or she uh has purchased it uh to

43:05be an Airbnb. You know, those are things

43:08that I know in reading the comments that

43:10came through from everybody she talked

43:12to on the street that you already know

43:15what happened there. She came back

43:18Monday and said that she bought it for

43:19herself and that to me challenges the

43:22different stories that we've heard. Uh

43:25those are facts and if they the two of

43:27them want facts of what happened you

43:30that's what happened so far. No I can't

43:32say anything about what's going to

43:34happen when she starts to rent it for

43:36Texas U weekend if it's just going to be

43:39six people and they're all going to park

43:41in the street that would be heavenly.

43:45But I know from the three that are

43:46registered within walking distance of

43:48our home. I know this is a fact from

43:52those three and the other two that are

43:54operating illegally that they are noisy.

43:58They are crowded. The crowd has already

44:02started to pull in at the one that's

44:03closest to our home behind uh the um

44:07Neville house and the Holman house for

44:10the Texas OU weekend.

44:13It'll be crazy. There'll be 20 or 30

44:16cars there. Even though it's only rented

44:18to one person,

44:20>> one minute.

44:21>> It will be loud. It'll be boisterous.

44:24They'll be throwing beer cans over the

44:26back fence. I know that to be a fact.

44:30As far as 620 Cox Drive, I don't know

44:33what's going to happen there, but I know

44:35my fence butts up against Miss Lydia's

44:38fence. And I don't want beer cans in my

44:40backyard. I don't want rowdy people next

44:44door because we live in a neighborhood.

44:47This is a neighborhood built for homes,

44:50for homeowners.

44:53129 as a fact, they stated people had

44:57been in and out within a two-year

44:59period.

45:02That's 52 weeks times two.

45:06That's a lot of people coming in and out

45:09that we don't know.

45:12that we can't control or can't take care

45:15of.

45:17Thank you very much. I appreciate you

45:18voting against it.

45:22>> Thank you. And then last but not least,

45:26we have Melissa Burnham.

45:30>> Melissa Burnham.

45:40Good evening.

45:44My name is Melissa Burnham. I live on

45:47Cox Drive. I'm opposed to this

45:49short-term rental request on Cox Drive.

45:52First, a short-term rental, and I'll

45:54refer here to an Airbnb because that's

45:56the most common, would completely change

45:58the face of our neighborhood. Cox Drive

46:01is an old established neighborhood that

46:03sits on a culde-sac. There are still

46:06people living there that are the

46:07original builders and residents. It is

46:10quiet and safe. I would argue that Cox

46:12Drive and the adjoining neighborhoods

46:15are some of the safest and most peaceful

46:17neighborhoods in all of Irving. In fact,

46:19our particular street, Cox Drive, is a

46:21highly soughtafter place to live. So, an

46:24Airbnb here would absolutely be out of

46:26place. Second, an Airbnb would

46:29jeopardize the safety of our street. I

46:32have lived on Cox Drive for over 12

46:33years with my family. My three kids

46:35rollerblade, bike, and scooter up and

46:37down the street daily. I have seen kids

46:39from the adjoining neighborhoods do the

46:41same. Not to mention the foot traffic

46:43from the students walking to and from

46:45MacArthur High School all on Cox Drive.

46:48So, an Airbnb would introduce multiple

46:50strangers every week into the

46:52neighborhood. This traffic would

46:54increase the risk of kids getting hit in

46:56the street. also or families with

46:59children. It is imperative that we know

47:01who is frequenting and staying in our

47:03neighborhood. So, a short-term rental

47:05simply would not allow for that.

47:07Finally, putting an Airbnb on Cox Drive

47:10would greatly diminish, I believe, the

47:13quality of life there, especially for

47:16those living adjacent to this property.

47:18It is impossible, in my opinion, to

47:20account for and control disruptive

47:22behavior of short-term rental tenants.

47:25By the time the owner would be made

47:26aware of this disruptive behavior, it

47:29would most likely be the next morning

47:31and the surrounding private property of

47:33the neighbors, uh, the damage there

47:35would already be done. And I'm talking

47:38about damage such as like the

47:39trespassing, the noise, the violation of

47:42parking rules, etc. So, there really is

47:45no way for the owner to vet the tenants

47:47in any meaningful or realistic way.

47:50>> One minute

47:50>> to ensure their tenants won't ever be

47:52disruptive. That's just the nature of

47:55short-term rentals. So, the odds are an

47:57Airbnb would introduce an ongoing

48:00disruptive environment into this

48:02peaceful neighborhood. So, in closing, I

48:05believe our neighborhood and those like

48:07it contribute in a large part to

48:09Irving's reputation for being a highly

48:11soughtafter and desirable place to live

48:13and raise a family. If the floodgates

48:16are opened to short-term rentals like

48:18Airbnbs into these neighborhoods, all of

48:21that is going to change. and that change

48:23will not be for the better. So tonight,

48:26I ask you to please deny this request

48:29for a STR on Cox Drive and please help

48:33us preserve and protect some of Irving's

48:36oldest and most legendary neighborhoods.

48:39Thank you. [applause]

48:47Okay, Chana, if there's no other to

48:49speak, um, I'll return it here to the

48:52council. Any comments from any other

48:54>> May I say something? I I came in late. I

48:57was I had to

48:59May I say something real quick?

49:03>> Are you from this neighborhood?

49:05>> I'm Yes.

49:06>> Okay.

49:08>> It's okay.

49:09>> Yeah, I'm going to do it.

49:11>> Yes, please come. Thank you.

49:24Thank you very much. Thank you for the

49:26change. My name is Klaus Milbbitz. I

49:29live on Cox Drive. I just wanted to say

49:31something real quick. a point that um

49:35was made during the zoning commission uh

49:38meeting but has

49:39>> actually address

49:40>> 516 Cox Drive.

49:43>> Yeah,

49:43>> thank you. is the proximity to the

49:46school, the proximity to MacArthur High

49:49School. And I think this might be

49:53something that Irving should consider in

49:55general is an ordinance limiting the

49:59distance from schools that uh short-term

50:03rentals can be much like other, you

50:05know, liquor stores and other uh

50:07businesses. So, I want to uh point that

50:09out. It's right next to a school with

50:12the uh right next to the field where the

50:14the football uh team practices, you

50:17know, all that stuff and the band

50:19practices and the the kids run on the

50:21track and stuff like that. Um that's the

50:24main point I wanted to make and and then

50:26also to express my um

50:31opinion against having a short-term

50:33rental on Cox Drive. Um I guess and then

50:37the other thing as far as the right to

50:42property ownership for whatever reason,

50:45then that needs to be weighed against

50:47the democratic process that we live in

50:50here in in the city and in the United

50:53States to where the desire of the

50:57community also has a a say on the

51:00outcome of um

51:03issues in our society. based on

51:06democratic values. So those are my two

51:09points and thank you very much for your

51:10time. Vote no. Thank you.

51:13>> Point of order, mayor.

51:15>> The [applause] point of order, mayor,

51:17the applicant gets five minutes to rebut

51:19if she has a rebuttal.

51:21>> Come on up.

51:23>> If she has one.

51:24>> Do you want to rebut this?

51:26>> Can I provide a picture?

51:29>> No, you're not the applicant. Miss Hong

51:31is.

51:32>> She

51:33>> He's also the owner. I'm the owner of

51:34the house.

51:35>> Oh, okay. Well,

51:37>> okay.

51:39>> To start give it to start this way.

51:42>> Yeah. No,

51:43>> you can go ahead and give it to the

51:44officer.

51:45>> Screen.

51:46>> Oh, if it's just a picture, you can just

51:47Yeah.

51:48>> You have five minutes. Yeah.

51:53>> Yes. It will come up. There you go.

51:55>> Other way around. There you go.

51:57>> Here's a picture next door to us. I

52:01tried to count it first time. 43. Then

52:04they counted 45 people next door to us.

52:0845 people. How many cars? It doesn't say

52:11on their forehead they're good people or

52:14not. But they were next to us. Next to

52:18drive that the house here.

52:22There's another picture.

52:24This is next to our fence. 620

52:28live band.

52:30Crawfish festival happening ex mayor

52:33there

52:36all the stuff what are we talking about

52:38the security measures schools are we

52:41treating every street different every

52:44residents citizens different

52:47I am strongly suggesting city has the

52:50ordinance and rules that's why we are

52:53here she's the applicant and we are

52:56following it we are keep talking about

52:59the noise this and that doesn't make any

53:02sense. What one night I was sleeping

53:06in the morning, middle of the night, she

53:10is turning off the lights of the house

53:13that the resident is sitting. Why?

53:15Because they're turning the front

53:17lights, the back lights. They were

53:19expecting somebody, some people to come.

53:22>> Small incidents sold middle of the

53:25night.

53:26>> Sir, could you please speak into the

53:27microphone? Thank you.

53:30Middle of the night, she solved the

53:32problem. I was sleeping. I woke up.

53:34She's not there.

53:37Bedford Police Department officer

53:40herself reservation cancelled at 1:30

53:44a.m. She escorted them outside.

53:50It's not records there, but this is what

53:55happened. This is

53:5845 people

54:00live band ex mayor

54:04crawfish festival

54:07this large amount of people if it's a

54:11black party 14 days ago they have to get

54:14uh permission from the city

54:17did they but we cannot limit them 10

54:20people 20 people six people she's

54:24allowing to stay city says

54:26Seven each person each room. We both

54:30disagree on the Airbnbs. Bunk beds. Bunk

54:33beds. More people.

54:36Quality streets, quality area, quality

54:39customers.

54:42Can I ask one last thing? How many of us

54:47using those kind of platforms? Can we

54:49raise hands?

54:53Airbnb short-term rentals. any

54:56how many of us using it

55:00relatives sisters brothers

55:03okay that's all I just asking fairness

55:07that's all

55:09from all of you guys if this is

55:12happening

55:14and if the city allows

55:17what else we should ask for

55:23if we are global standarding every

55:26corner of the city while we have the

55:29ordinances

55:31against [clears throat]

55:34who do we have to trust 20 minutes ago

55:37we all together

55:39did that

55:42I don't get it

55:44noise

55:46she has camera at the back I cannot even

55:49get it in my house from the even chimney

55:54If you're looking for if you're allowing

55:58SDRs,

56:00she is qualified person and proven

56:04all the other concerns are not exist at

56:08the moment.

56:10AI can tell,

56:13police department can tell,

56:16school people tell anybody.

56:19If I want to get a house four street

56:22south

56:25then Mr. David going to say no.

56:30What are we doing?

56:34Because of the ex mayor coming and

56:35harassing my wife

56:40that you cannot do. What are you doing?

56:44Why do you you requesting the zoning

56:46change?

56:50Who's ordinance we are going to follow?

56:52Michelle's she can come write an

56:55ordinance we do that

56:59next time she needs to run.

57:01>> Mr. Farad

57:03exchange next time with him.

57:05>> That's time

57:06>> or Mr. David the same way.

57:07>> Time.

57:08>> Thank you.

57:08>> Congratulation to you guys by the way

57:10and the mayor.

57:12>> Okay. At this time. Thank you.

57:14>> Um I'm going to return it to the council

57:17and I want to make one statement.

57:19>> No, you can't.

57:23>> I want one thing very clear. Opposition

57:26is over 20% within 200 ft. A super

57:31majority is required for approval.

57:33That's seven votes. Okay. Ahmed.

57:36>> Um mayor and council for ordinance 2026

57:39262 cup. I'd like to make a motion for

57:42denial.

57:43>> I would like to second the motion. And

57:44also, those pictures were awesome.

57:47>> So, thank you for showing that.

57:48>> Okay. At this time, I'd like you to go

57:50ahead and show your vote.

58:01It's unanimous denial.

58:03Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for

58:05coming. Appreciate it. [applause]

58:11Okay, we are on to item 29.

58:15Ordinance

58:16U zoning change from SP1 C-N

58:21detail site plan neighborhood commercial

58:24C- neighborhood commercial 1413

58:28Southtory Road. Chené, do we have

58:31anybody signed up to speak on this item?

58:33>> Yes, the applicants here if there's

58:35questions. Lane.

58:37>> Motion for approval.

58:44>> Got a motion.

58:45>> No, I know it.

58:46>> Okay, I'm just letting them go.

58:49[clears throat]

58:49>> Okay, we have a motion and a second.

58:51Please show your vote.

58:55>> What are we voting?

59:05What did I do?

59:07>> I need to reverse that.

59:11>> Okay.

59:12>> Where is it? What' you tell me no for?

59:16>> I was confused. I'm sorry.

59:19>> We'll worry about mayor.

59:22[laughter]

59:24>> You see what he said to me when I asked

59:25him anyway. Okay, we're on. That one's

59:27done. Thank you. The final one

59:30>> 8 to one

59:30>> is 30

59:32ordinance 2026 278 cup conditional use

59:37permit to operate a short-term rental on

59:41R six single family District 910

59:47Sam Hill Street

59:49Chenet do we have anybody to speak on

59:51that

59:52>> yes

59:55we have Jerry Catola

59:58followed by Joe Tarver.

1:00:07>> Jerry, are you here?

1:00:09>> Excuse me.

1:00:12>> I don't know.

1:00:13>> I'm the applicant.

1:00:16>> Okay. Who are you?

1:00:17>> Juan Martinez.

1:00:19Just got here late.

1:00:22>> Okay.

1:00:23>> Okay.

1:00:24>> Yeah. The mayor says yes.

1:00:26>> Come on up. Come on down.

1:00:42>> Okay, welcome.

1:00:45>> Um, good evening, mayor and council

1:00:46members. My name is Juan Martinez. Um, I

1:00:49reside currently in Richardson, Dallas

1:00:51County. Um, thank you for the

1:00:53opportunity to speak. My family has deep

1:00:56ties in Irving and this neighborhood. My

1:00:58mother has lived there for 15 years and

1:01:00I have lived there for three. Two of my

1:01:03aunts uh live in the neighborhood as

1:01:05well. My grandmother actually lived

1:01:07right next door to me for many years. Uh

1:01:10my children attended Fine uh Elementary,

1:01:13Travis and uh MacArthur as well. Um I

1:01:19also work for Paragon Sports

1:01:20Constructors which do a lot of work for

1:01:23Irving ISD. I think they think we just

1:01:25completed like Travis Middle School. Um,

1:01:29I understand the concerns raised about

1:01:31the proximity to MacArthur High School

1:01:34and protecting the family-friendly

1:01:35character of our neighborhood. As a

1:01:38parent and member of this community, I

1:01:40share those priorities. I respectfully

1:01:42ask that you consider my actual

1:01:44operating history.

1:01:46I began the Airbnb in March and no

1:01:50neighbor has contacted me with any

1:01:52complaint about noise, trash, or any

1:01:55guest behavior. I recognize that this

1:01:58does not eliminate every concern, but I

1:02:01believe it demonstrates the care I have

1:02:03taken. I take pride in my home. I'm

1:02:06careful about the reservations I accept

1:02:08and have exterior security cameras in

1:02:11front and back. My neighbor across the

1:02:13street, Darla, also has my personal

1:02:16number and can uh contact me directly. I

1:02:19am willing to accept clear enforcable

1:02:22conditions addressing parties, quiet

1:02:24hours, occupancy, parking, and prompt

1:02:27responses to neighborhood concerns. My

1:02:30intention is to operate responsibly

1:02:31while respecting the people who live

1:02:33around me. I respectfully ask to I

1:02:37respectfully ask the council to consider

1:02:39approval with with appropriate

1:02:41conditions that address the concerns

1:02:43raised. Thank you.

1:02:50[clears throat]

1:02:57>> Okay. Thank you,

1:02:59>> Mayor. We have three people who want to

1:03:01speak.

1:03:02>> Okay. Uh, first person is Jerry Kachua

1:03:07Kachula. Second person is Joe Tarver.

1:03:10And third is John Del Rio. If y'all

1:03:13would kind of move up and get ready to

1:03:16speak.

1:03:23Hello, I'm Jerry Catullia. I'm at 1019

1:03:26Sam Hill Street. Um, I think the main

1:03:29concern I'm having is that uh the home

1:03:32does back up directly to MacArthur High

1:03:35School and we do have a lot of kids

1:03:37walking up and down that street all the

1:03:39time. I don't even have kids myself, but

1:03:41I'm kind of protective of them. And just

1:03:45with people coming in and out that you

1:03:47don't know in the neighborhood, it's

1:03:49just a little concerning, I think. And

1:03:53so I'm all about free enterprise, but

1:03:56I'm also about my neighborhood and my

1:03:58home, and I've lived there for 24 years,

1:04:00and we'd like to keep it a safe safe

1:04:03place. So that's all. So I am opposed uh

1:04:06to making it a short-term rental. Thank

1:04:08you,

1:04:08>> Joe Tarver, followed by John Del Rio.

1:04:30You owe me $5.

1:04:34>> I'm Joe Tarver.

1:04:36I live at 1015 Sam Hill.

1:04:40I've been there a long time. Been half

1:04:41of my life. Celebrating my 50th

1:04:44anniversary there this year.

1:04:48I have a love for Sam Hill. I worked for

1:04:53Sam Hill. First job, first paying job I

1:04:56ever had in Irving, 15 years old at Mr.

1:04:59Sam Hill's

1:05:01business and I think the quite a tribute

1:05:05to Sam Hill Street was put in by Sam

1:05:09when he developed that area.

1:05:12I think the neighborhood

1:05:18Uh, take me a minute, man. I'm

1:05:23I think the neighborhood sent out

1:05:27notices and they got 11 of 12 that I

1:05:33solicited for the people to fill in.

1:05:37I'm sure his mother would have sent one

1:05:39back too for the same reason. I was

1:05:42quite knowledgeable of her and she was a

1:05:45great lady.

1:05:48She she loved that neighborhood too.

1:05:51People come to Sam Hill to live, call it

1:05:54a home, not a party place or place to

1:05:58cause trouble, drugs or do whatever

1:06:01whatever they want to do. There's a lot

1:06:04of that goes on around town. I've got

1:06:06some rental property around town and I

1:06:10understand what rental brings forth and

1:06:12it get doesn't get any better. But this

1:06:15is not going to make our street any

1:06:17better either.

1:06:23If on just as an example how our street

1:06:28operates, very few houses come up for

1:06:30sale. house next door to him. People had

1:06:34to go to nursing home. They had the

1:06:36estate sale. He bought He bought the

1:06:39house.

1:06:40Had an estate sale. He didn't have to go

1:06:42to real estate.

1:06:43>> One minute.

1:06:44>> They put up a sign out there so they

1:06:46could hustle some more real estate

1:06:48business.

1:06:51I hope that you fellas would people

1:06:54would vote no. I'd certainly appreciate

1:06:57it. I know a neighbor high school and

1:07:01the traffic is traffic is improved

1:07:04thanks to the city fixing Macau Arthur.

1:07:08One day I counted

1:07:10167 cars in Sam Hill between 7:30 and

1:07:149:00 in the morning bringing kids to

1:07:17school and that improved our

1:07:20neighborhood back to where it's proud to

1:07:23be saying I lived on Sam Hill. I thank

1:07:26you for your time and your

1:07:28consideration. I hope you'll vote no.

1:07:32>> Thank you, Mr. Tarver.

1:07:34[applause]

1:07:36>> John John Del Rio,

1:07:45>> mayor, and council members. Uh good

1:07:47evening. Um I I am in opposition of U

1:07:52short-term rental uh in our neighborhood

1:07:54for these are the following reasons u

1:07:58reading what uh what why why I do not

1:08:02want a short-term rental in this uh in

1:08:04our neighborhood. I'm a longtime uh

1:08:07resident of 9 and I live at 922 Sam

1:08:10Hill. My wife and I we've raised three

1:08:12kids there. Uh my kids uh all graduated

1:08:15from North um from M MacArthur and um so

1:08:20we're longtime residents. We live there

1:08:21about 31 years. Um let me just read this

1:08:24into uh into the record if I could.

1:08:27Plano has strictly banned all new

1:08:29short-term rentals from operating in

1:08:31single family residential neighborhoods.

1:08:33The landmark decision by the Plano City

1:08:36City Council followed nearly two years

1:08:38of tense community gridlock regarding

1:08:40safety, crime, and neighborhood quality

1:08:42of life.

1:08:44The core problems cited by Plano

1:08:46residents. Uh the local community

1:08:47heavily represented by advocacy groups

1:08:50like Texas Neighborhood Coalition and

1:08:52Plano uh pushed for severe restrictions

1:08:55due to a pattern of disruptive behavior.

1:08:58Severe safety and crime incidents,

1:09:00multiple high profile criminal events uh

1:09:04intensified the legal battle. Plano

1:09:06police raided an Airbnb property

1:09:09operating as a illicit brothel and human

1:09:12trafficking site and separate

1:09:14residential short-term rental was uh was

1:09:17seen as a altercation that that um sent

1:09:21gunfire through through a neighborhood

1:09:23children's playroom.

1:09:26Nuisance violations. The Plano Police

1:09:28Department responded to hundreds of

1:09:29calls regarding the wild weekend party

1:09:31houses. Massive street parking issues,

1:09:34excess excess litter, underage drinking,

1:09:37and drug violations. Erosion of the

1:09:40community. Longtime residents express

1:09:42anxiety over the quiet uh subdivisions

1:09:45operating like unchecked commercial

1:09:47hotel zones causing permanent families

1:09:49to feel unsafe or move away. Uh, also

1:09:53our neighborhood has uh some residents

1:09:55that are elderly that

1:09:57>> that we uh that we all know very well

1:10:01and uh and u they they're also opposed

1:10:05to it. Um I just uh just looking at an

1:10:09overall safety issue. Um it's not going

1:10:12to be the owner of the property that

1:10:13responds to an altercation that happens

1:10:15during a short-term rental. It's going

1:10:17to be a neighbor and the Irving police.

1:10:20So, for those reasons, um um you know, I

1:10:24I'm I just cannot really support this

1:10:28and I hope you all agree with me.

1:10:30Appreciate your time.

1:10:32>> Great. Thank you.

1:10:33>> Thank you.

1:10:33>> That's all our speakers. [applause]

1:10:37>> Okay, we have no other speaking.

1:10:39>> Yes, sir.

1:10:40>> Thank you. At this time, I want to

1:10:43return it to the council. As I

1:10:45mentioned, um this is an ordinance uh

1:10:48conditional use permit uh to operate a

1:10:51short-term rental at R-6 single family

1:10:56district 910 Sam Hill.

1:11:00Is there a motion and a second?

1:11:03>> Motion to deny.

1:11:04>> Second.

1:11:06>> Show your vote.

1:11:11Unanimous. Thank you. It does was

1:11:14denied. [applause]

1:11:20Okay, that concludes u the work sessions

1:11:24for us and passage of not only our

1:11:27ordinance but uh dealing with our zoning

1:11:30cases in particular. I want to thank all

1:11:32of you because I think I've seen you in

1:11:35one or two places especially I think uh

1:11:38is

1:11:40our friend the uh fellow that and his

1:11:44lovely wife that give us the kind of one

1:11:47day a year that we can enjoy a nice uh

1:11:51a boil and a few other things. And yeah,

1:11:54I'm not the former mayor. I'm the mayor

1:11:56that goes there. Okay.

1:11:59All right. [applause]

1:12:01I'm gonna probably get in trouble for

1:12:02that one, but that's okay. At this time,

1:12:05uh, we

1:12:10>> I'm sorry. We're closed at this point.

1:12:12Now, we do have public comment at this

1:12:15point. If you want to comment as a

1:12:17public citizen, you may do that.

1:12:20>> What?

1:12:22>> You cannot comment on the the case. No.

1:12:24But if you want to talk to the council,

1:12:26you may do that. Not on the cases that

1:12:30we've already closed. It's closed.

1:12:32>> So, you

1:12:34>> Well, I will say you didn't sign up in

1:12:37the first place, but secondly, you would

1:12:40get a chance to respond, but it wouldn't

1:12:42change the outcome.

1:12:44>> So, I'm not I'm not here to talk against

1:12:46it. I was just going to

1:12:48>> It's up to the mayor.

1:12:50>> At this time, it's closed. Thank you.

1:12:53Unless you want to make a general

1:12:55comment to the council that's not

1:12:58relative to what we've already dealt

1:12:59with in the work session, you're welcome

1:13:01to come and say a few words.

1:13:05Okay. Thank you. At this point, Shenade,

1:13:08>> we have no

1:13:09>> Congratulations. You'll have no citizen

1:13:12comments tonight.

1:13:13>> So, we are now complete. Okay. Well,

1:13:17thank you. I want to thank everybody for

1:13:19coming and I want you to know that there

1:13:22is no mayor's report because we are

1:13:24adjourned.

1:13:27[applause]

1:13:28[cheering]

1:13:32[music]

1:13:55Hey.

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