2026-10-14 - Planning Board

03:01How you doing? Hey, great.

03:06Got your iPad this week.

03:31No Gary tonight.

03:33>> Is that Shut shut the mics off as well?

03:36>> No, those are the lights.

04:00No Gary.

04:01>> No. Gary working again.

04:05>> Three months now.

04:06>> Is it been three?

04:07>> Yeah.

04:08>> So, let me interrupt bad guy again.

04:14Huh?

04:14>> It's easy peasy.

04:17No bad guys to

04:18>> Yeah. War. I don't know if you get the

04:19word, but uh Smokey requested a

04:22continuation this morning.

04:25>> Guess continue

04:27here.

04:29>> Come on.

04:34>> Just wound all up, you know.

04:36>> Yeah. So, they'll be here. They'll be

04:37asking for that.

04:41They prepared for a long meeting, but

04:42it's not going to be one. Hopefully not.

04:47If the CDBG wasn't on this, I would say

04:51we were out of here by 6:30.

04:55The CDBG till

05:01>> Yeah.

05:02>> And if there's no public, they can face

05:04the camera.

05:06No watching. Like, it's ridiculous.

05:10We've never had someone come and propose

05:12anything. Yeah.

05:15>> And the public knows how hard the the

05:17program is. Generally, they don't they

05:20don't try unless they have a major

05:21project they're looking for.

05:24>> The U

05:26tree ordinance. I didn't see anything in

05:28there about limiting the population of

05:31squirrels.

05:35>> What?

05:36>> We should limit the populations.

05:39No,

05:41>> he's going to eat all the acorns.

05:43[laughter]

05:46>> You know, you know what the front of my

05:48house sounds like if I got the windows

05:50open?

05:51>> There's nothing.

05:53>> Or is it the the squirrels?

05:55>> No, the squirrels.

05:57>> Definitely nothing.

05:58>> The acorns hitting the car and

06:00everything.

06:02>> I don't think he needs to. I mean,

06:03there's just some public announcement.

06:13So, we don't need

06:15We don't

06:18need an attorney tonight. We don't

06:22>> We're gonna have a synographer. She's

06:23remote.

06:25She's been doing remote forever.

06:26>> When When was the last time you saw me

06:29show up with a water bottle?

06:30>> I don't know. ever tonight.

06:34>> You're

06:36very [laughter]

06:52good. How are

06:53>> you?

06:56True.

06:59>> Gary's not coming to us. I put you

07:00closer.

07:01>> Okay.

07:03>> Hi Dave.

07:04>> I don't know if you

07:09>> already

07:23bring in an expert. That's what he's

07:25trying to get.

07:27That's what he's trying to get.

07:31>> Hey, Steve.

07:34>> You know, the more he opened his mouth,

07:36the more he turned off everybody.

07:39>> Yeah. Yeah. I actually enjoyed reading

07:42his letter.

07:44>> It was It was very helpful to read his

07:48letter rather than listen to him yelling

07:51at us. Yeah, the presentation is a

07:54little distracting.

07:55>> He's probably still gonna do that.

08:00>> Yeah, they're not that long.

08:02>> No,

08:04>> notice downstairs at the that meeting.

08:12>> We're doing it on the record. His

08:14attorney's coming tonight.

08:15>> Yeah,

08:16>> we're doing this formally

08:18>> to request the hearing. I'm in the

08:22>> continuous.

08:22>> Okay. Jack's coming to continue it.

08:24>> And he's waiting the 90 days.

08:26>> He is. Yeah. I got a letter waving it.

08:29So, we're good on that. That was my

08:30concern because we're going to schedule

08:33a special meeting so we could give you

08:35an extra day to decide before the

08:36deadline.

08:39>> Brent, uh, are we going to meet the

08:42fifth?

08:43>> No.

08:44>> Next one. Oh,

08:44>> we were. Um, but since he continued it

08:47and waved the 90 days, we don't have to

08:50worry about it anymore.

08:51>> Okay. I thought I thought maybe uh

08:55the uh second Wednesday was

08:58>> Yeah, we're going to try to schedule it

09:02the week of not on the Wednesday or the

09:04week after. So, I'm still considering

09:07I'm gonna do a poll.

09:08>> Okay. But Angelica was saying I think

09:10the 18th was the date she

09:13>> remember.

09:14>> I thought that was a Christmas gift.

09:16>> Yeah, the week after on the 18th.

09:20>> Are you all available on the 18th?

09:22>> I'm just going to look at

09:23>> I thought we're moving to the uh

09:25[clears throat and cough]

09:26>> So, we were going to move it to I was

09:28going to try to move it to the the 10th.

09:31>> Are we talking October?

09:32>> No more special meetings.

09:34>> Special meetings off the table. We're

09:36going to but our regular meeting date is

09:39the is Veterans Day. So we have to

09:42figure out a different regular meeting

09:43date.

09:44>> Oh, okay. Okay.

09:45>> Um and Angelica said the

09:48>> Wednesday is Veterans Day.

09:50>> Yeah. So the Thursday the 12th I'm doing

09:54a special zoning board meeting for the

09:55scrub dub um because they're requesting

09:59a extension on their special use permit

10:04because that expires the 18th one day

10:07before the zoning board regular meeting.

10:09So

10:11>> So what day do you want to do us?

10:13>> The 18th is the

10:15>> the idea right now.

10:16>> The third Wednesday.

10:18>> The third Wednesday instead of the

10:19second. So this the second and and not

10:21do the 10th

10:23>> and not do the not do the week of the

10:259th through 13th.

10:27>> Okay.

10:28>> The regular meeting days the 11th.

10:29That's off the table because it's

10:32>> edit that

10:34>> and we're going to change that to

10:36>> 6 o'clock on the 18th.

10:38>> The 18th.

10:39>> Yes. Tenatively.

10:42>> And October is still the second

10:43Wednesday.

10:44>> That's today. Yesterday

10:46>> for here. [laughter]

10:50You got it.

10:52>> That's it.

10:52>> Are you retired?

10:53>> Yeah,

10:54>> you're retired. I'm here. He must

10:56>> I thought you were saying the

10:57continuence. I thought you said the

10:59continuence going to give us 90 days

11:01from today.

11:02>> No.

11:02>> No.

11:02>> 90 days from his application date.

11:05>> Yeah.

11:06So, that would have been the the 12th, I

11:08believe.

11:10>> He was waiting on the

11:12>> Okay. So, so we're back to the 18th.

11:15>> The 18th.

11:17It looks like my calendar is free. I'm

11:19just double checking that my wife

11:21doesn't have it. Her birthday is the

11:22next day. So,

11:23>> all right.

11:24>> We can't have it on the 19th.

11:25>> So, that's the third Wednesday.

11:27>> The third Wednesday. Yeah.

11:28>> Is anything in this is anything in this

11:30room on the third Wednesday?

11:33>> Smoke. It'll probably be

11:35>> No.

11:37Is anything else booked in this room on

11:39that third Wednesday?

11:40>> Oh, I don't think so.

11:41>> No, the um the fourth was booked.

11:45That was when I was trying to do the

11:46special meeting.

12:04>> So, we don't have a meeting on the 5th.

12:06That's canceled too, right?

12:08>> No special meeting on the 5th, correct?

12:10>> No. Can It's canled.

12:12>> No. No more meeting.

12:15is cancelled.

12:17>> Delete event. Yes.

12:24>> Is going to be late.

12:33>> Want to get the block grants first or

12:35she's here for the ordinance.

12:38>> Switch them.

12:39>> Yeah.

12:40>> All right. Because she doesn't need to

12:42be here for that. That's just to hear

12:44the public if they have any ideas.

12:51>> When did the council me last week?

12:54>> Uh it's the first Tuesday last Tuesday.

12:56what he was.

13:13>> Can I ask you a question?

13:14>> Yes.

13:15>> Beard Avenue going to be heard?

13:17>> Beard Avenue going to be heard?

13:19>> So, is it they requested a continuation

13:22this morning? I don't know if you want

13:24to address that now for all these people

13:25that are here right now.

13:26>> No, they're going to come. We're going

13:27to put it. It's going to be record, sir.

13:30>> Okay.

13:31>> Continuation,

13:32>> but I'm going home to watch the news.

13:33Have a good night, guys. You

13:45>> perfectly clear.

13:47>> We didn't. [laughter]

13:48>> It's a continuation vote.

13:50>> That's the case.

13:55They're still coming.

13:57>> We told them

14:20run and grab

14:24Yeah.

14:27point.

14:50>> There we go.

15:02Yeah, it's a tough time

15:05or

15:07you're coming from your office.

15:11>> Yeah.

15:24We want to keep everything

15:30>> like your brother playing golf all the

15:32time.

15:33>> I get it.

15:34>> Rob

15:37between him and Joe Hasset. That's

15:40that's what they do. They should become

15:41professional golfers.

15:45>> He's very good at

15:49Yeah. Yeah.

16:00Oh, you didn't play there.

16:05>> With that, that's good.

16:12My dad was teaching.

16:19I just found

16:39my father.

16:42That's him right there.

16:48on the same monument.

16:52>> Nice.

16:57>> What's that monument for? Is that like a

16:59World War II monument?

17:03>> Yeah.

17:04>> I asked this old Jesus sitting in a bar,

17:06you know, where Oh, yeah. It's about

17:07halfway up the road.

17:10>> Oh, nice. That's a great picture. That's

17:13cool.

17:36She's running out of time.

17:38>> She's minute early.

17:42I will tell

17:43Yes.

18:21Yeah, accidents.

18:39David just got here.

18:41>> He's in the bathroom.

18:51[clears throat]

18:52>> Okay.

19:03Where?

19:04>> She's here.

19:05>> She's in the bathroom.

19:06>> Oh,

19:08[clears throat]

19:09>> I went in for eye surgery last Friday.

19:13The third time I went

19:14>> for the same eye.

19:16>> For the same eye.

19:17>> For the same eye.

19:18>> First time they gave me

19:21>> the wrong meds.

19:24They gave me the milkshake and I took a

19:27couple of minutes to take it. This is

19:30after they

19:32during press. Then the second time was

19:36about three weeks ago. Four weeks ago.

19:38>> All right. Good evening guys.

19:39>> How are you?

19:40>> Hi everyone.

19:41>> Hello Angelica.

19:43>> Hello.

19:45>> I went in on Monday morning but on

19:47Sunday I woke up.

19:49>> I'm excellent. How are you?

19:50>> Good.

19:50>> Good. I couldn't

19:52>> at a campaign event.

19:53>> We called the restaurant.

19:54>> Now I'm here.

19:55>> We did at one of the nursing homes like

19:57a pasta pizza.

19:59>> Oh, nice.

20:04>> I say I had a problem yesterday.

20:07>> Did they have an announcement today?

20:09>> We had to call the rescue.

20:11>> We did. And she went

20:12>> announcement. I said something about it.

20:17>> And he says, "I don't think we can

20:19operate. I'm gonna see him tomorrow.

20:25>> For him, right? I'm going to be there.

20:26>> I put you out.

20:27>> Anthony said he saw you the other day.

20:28>> Yes.

20:30>> You're always going

20:32>> supposed to call me. You're supposed to

20:34call

20:36this two are busy or something.

20:43Are you all set?

20:46>> I got a lunch steel there.

20:48>> We'll get a marine. Yeah, nice rock.

20:51>> And then it was supposed to shall

20:53operation.

20:54>> Yeah, it looks telling me it's not

20:56history right now.

20:57>> Sorry.

20:58>> Sorry, Warren.

20:58>> How are you?

20:59>> Good. How are you?

21:00>> Do you mind turning on the microphones?

21:03>> Thank you.

21:05>> Hi. Good evening, everyone. Can Can

21:07everybody in the gallery hear me? Okay.

21:10Thank you. Uh thanks for joining us uh

21:12tonight. We're here located uh in the

21:15town of North Providence uh council

21:17chambers uh 2000 Smith Street, North

21:20Providence, Rhode Island. Uh this is the

21:23North Providence Planning Board hearing.

21:25Uh the date is October 14th, 2026.

21:30Uh can you please join me in saying our

21:32pledge of allegiance?

21:36I pledge algiance to the flag of the

21:38United States of America and to the

21:41republic for which it stands. One nation

21:44under God, indivisible, with liberty and

21:46justice.

21:52>> Thank you for that. Um, first item on

21:56our publicized agenda is the approval of

21:59the minutes from September 23rd, 2026.

22:03We have yet to receive them from our

22:06stenographer. Uh so I will kindly

22:09um request a motion to continue.

22:18>> I'll make that motion.

22:20>> Warren Mitch Telly makes the motion.

22:23>> Second.

22:23>> Steve Tassy seconds. All in favor?

22:26>> I

22:27>> I. Any opposed? I'm hearing none. The

22:29motion passes. Uh, sorry a little bit of

22:32out of order. We'll take attendance. Um,

22:34starting with Mr. Dukio,

22:36>> Lou Dukio,

22:38>> Warren Richelli,

22:40>> uh, David Pari,

22:41>> Steve Patassi,

22:42>> Brown Week Town Planner,

22:44>> Angelica Bo, solicitor.

22:46>> Okay, we do have four members um,

22:49present, we do have a quorum. That first

22:51vote is definitely official. Uh second

22:54on tonight's um agenda, the address is

22:58114 Beard Avenue, assessors Plat Lot

23:02Plat 24A, lot 110, zone residential

23:05limited RL10. Applicants Patriot

23:09Builders 140 Road, Exitor, Rhode Island.

23:13The description is continued from

23:15September 23rd, 2026. It is a public

23:18hearing combined master and preliminary

23:21plan review for a 48 residential unit

23:24adaptive reuse major land development

23:26allowed by Wright under zoning utilizing

23:30the existing structure. Is the applicant

23:32a representative of the applicant

23:34present tonight?

23:42>> Evening Mr. Chairman.

23:44>> Just state your name, please. Attorney

23:46Jack McGreen for the applicant builders.

23:49>> Um I did speak to the um solicitor

23:51earlier uh this afternoon and asked for

23:54a continuence in order to um address

23:57some of the environmental issues that

23:58were raised at the last meeting. We had

24:00a little bit of difficult time reaching

24:02our uh environmental engineer.

24:04Apparently he was um sick for like the

24:06last six weeks um and we just recently

24:09engaged him on Friday. And for that

24:12reason, we're looking to continue it

24:13till uh November 18th, I believe, was

24:16the next available date. Um so that we

24:18might be able to get the information to

24:20you, if any, that we might get from this

24:22uh engineer, same engineer, um Mr.

24:25Harman, to respond or further comment on

24:28what he said in his um his phase one

24:31environmental report.

24:34>> Okay. So, in moving it to just to

24:37November 18th, does your client wave the

24:4090-day? We do.

24:41>> Okay.

24:42>> And I sent that in writing to the um

24:43solicitor this afternoon.

24:45>> Okay.

24:47>> Mr. McGre, thank you for coming in

24:48person today. I know that you did send

24:50us in writing and was hoping to uh kind

24:52of handle this administratively, but I

24:54know we have some members of the public.

24:55So, I appreciate you coming in today to

24:58request that. Um it it is correct that

25:01the applicant has waved the 90day uh

25:04decision

25:06um so we can continue the meeting to a

25:08November date. Um, I would also ask that

25:11the applicant

25:13wave

25:15um for an additional meeting to

25:18haveision to have a decision rendered I

25:21think before January 1 is fair. Probably

25:23for the December meeting whenever that

25:25will be,

25:26>> right? So if it's November 18, when's

25:27the December meeting?

25:28>> It's the third. It's the second

25:30Wednesday of the month. So it would be

25:33December

25:359th. So, we would extend the uh

25:38>> 90 days to the to the 9th and if there's

25:40an issue arises, just call me and

25:43>> we're not going to like that.

25:45>> Perfect.

25:46>> Um the only housekeeping matter is the

25:50regular scheduled meeting for November

25:53uh members of the planning board is

25:55November 11th. That is Veterans Day. Um

25:59it's up to the board if they would like

26:00to have their regular meeting on the

26:0218th to for this project as well as

26:06whatever projects would be available in

26:08November or you guys can keep your

26:10regular meeting for the 11th or choose a

26:12different day. Um but that special

26:15meeting that was talked about for the

26:17beginning of November is no longer

26:18necessary.

26:20So, if the if members of the board have

26:22an opinion as to if they want to keep

26:23the 11th or if they want to do the 18th,

26:27um, let me know. I I'm actually not

26:28available on the 18th, but I don't want

26:31that to

26:35uh steer you any type of way.

26:42Well, if we take one thing at a time, um

26:46we can

26:49consider the applicant's request for a

26:51continuence

26:53um until a

26:56a date certain of December 9th

26:59and

27:02pull the board

27:06um separately from

27:10this agenda item. um as to when the

27:13November meeting can take place.

27:15Correct.

27:15>> So, I just wanted to be clear, the

27:17continuence wouldn't be to a date

27:19certain of December 9th. That'd be the

27:21waving of the 90-day period. Oh, I'm

27:23sorry. The continuence would be to the

27:25November meeting, whichever date we

27:27figure out.

27:28>> You mean a date certain?

27:29>> Okay. And I had mentioned the 18th just

27:31because I saw that Veterans Day was on

27:32your normally scheduled meeting, but um

27:35and we're the time's a little tight, but

27:38I wouldn't have a problem continuing my

27:39matter to that date if you so decide to

27:41have your regular meeting on the was it

27:44would be the 11th.

27:46>> The 11th. Um, and if if we're unable to

27:49get our information gathered within 7

27:52days prior to your meeting, um, then I

27:54would call you and just ask for another

27:56bumpout. If if you wanted to do it on

27:58the 11th rather than the 18th, I I don't

28:00have a problem with that either.

28:03>> So, do you guys want to just keep your

28:04regular scheduled meeting for November

28:0611th tenatively?

28:12>> How we do? What do we think? I I have no

28:15issues with keeping it on the 11th. Um

28:17>> 11th is fine with me.

28:19>> So we'll need a motion to continue to a

28:21date certain which would be November

28:2311th.

28:24>> 11th

28:27the town hall will be closed that day.

28:32>> Town hall is closed.

28:34>> Yeah.

28:34>> So we can't have it on the 11th.

28:35>> Do you guys want to do it on the 10th or

28:37the 12th?

28:39Which would be the the Tuesday or the

28:41Wednesday that week?

28:42>> For the 12th. I'm holding a special

28:43zoning board meeting.

28:45>> Okay.

28:48>> So, I think the 18th works best or the

28:5119th

28:56>> or the 17th even.

28:58>> I'm not available that week. I can get

28:59coverage if that's nec for that's

29:02necessary. I'm not available that

29:05guess be up to the board. It's

29:07>> up to the board.

29:08>> Don't base it on me.

29:13Do you want to do the 10th, the Tuesday

29:14before Veterans Day?

29:18>> Well, will we will an attorney be here?

29:20>> Yes, I will be here.

29:21>> So, I'm I'm free the 10th. I'm also free

29:25the the 18th. I'm not free the 19th just

29:28for the board's consideration. So, at

29:30least for my availability, I'm available

29:33the 10th

29:36>> and the 18th.

29:37>> Tuesdays. that town council meeting.

29:40>> So the third would be the town council

29:41meeting. The first Tuesday of the month

29:43is generally the town council meeting.

29:45>> That's election day.

29:46>> That's election day.

29:48>> Are they moving their meeting?

29:51>> The fourth.

29:53>> Thank you.

29:53>> So there's no town council conflict on

29:55November 10th from what you know.

29:57>> Okay.

29:58>> Thank you.

29:58>> Thank you, sir. Do you guys want to do

30:00the 10th?

30:01>> I I'd rather do the 12th if that's

30:04possible.

30:05>> The 12th I'm not available and this

30:06room's not available. Right.

30:08>> Can't do the 12th either.

30:10>> So the the the 10th or the 18th, guys.

30:16>> I can do either one. So,

30:18>> okay.

30:19>> 10th is fine with me.

30:24>> All right. Why do you

30:25>> Lucio,

30:26>> you're available on the 10th?

30:30>> I I have an appointment in the

30:32afternoon, but I should be able to meet.

30:34>> Okay.

30:37Let's do a motion to continue to a date

30:39certain on November 10th, please.

30:43>> I'll make a motion.

30:45>> I'll second it.

30:46>> Okay. The motion is made by Mr. Rich

30:49Telly and seconded by Mr. Patassi. All

30:51in favor say I.

30:52>> I. Motion passes. The

30:56um Beard Avenue

30:59agenda item is continued to our newly

31:02scheduled planning board meeting

31:05November Tuesday, November 10th at 6

31:08p.m.

31:11Thank you, Jim.

31:13>> Thank you.

31:14>> That a lot harder than

31:16>> Yeah. Thank you.

31:17>> Gosh,

31:19that's my fault. My grandma's 95.

31:23That's why Ketty's birthday is on the

31:24Ky's birthday is on the 19th. So that's

31:26why I was like I can't do that.

31:28>> Dave, if you just announced that they

31:30only a project is a administrative

31:33review instead of planning board review.

31:35Yeah, just for anyone that

31:36>> I'll give everybody a moment to get out.

31:39>> I'm not sure if anyone's here for that,

31:40but there might be.

31:43[clears throat]

31:45>> Okay, the next item on our agenda is uh

31:48the address of Zero Only Avenue. um that

31:53is no longer on our agenda because it

31:55per the new state law, it can be handled

31:58administratively

32:00and does not require a public hearing or

32:03for this board to uh review it. So, if

32:07you're here for a zero only avenue, um

32:11that project is not being heard tonight.

32:15>> Only street.

32:16>> I'm sorry. There there was a typo on the

32:19but it doesn't matter because it does

32:22>> discussion zero street.

32:24>> No.

32:26>> No.

32:26>> It's administrative.

32:28>> It's just an administrative approval.

32:30No.

32:30>> Okay. Because I'm concerned about that.

32:33>> What are your concern? Are you

32:35>> Yeah, it wasn't even in our packet. I

32:37don't know how

32:39>> I don't have any information.

32:41>> You want to do undersized lots.

32:43>> So, let's Warren Let I think you should.

32:45So, it's not an agenda item anymore.

32:48>> We can't talk about it because it's not

32:49on the agenda.

32:51>> Okay.

32:51>> All right.

32:52>> Well, you can talk to me after about it.

32:53>> I'll talk to you.

32:55>> Yeah. Um, item number four is

32:57recommendation to the town council

32:59regarding the adoption of a new tree

33:01ordinance in order to qualify for the

33:04town for

33:06Tree City USA.

33:11Did

33:12>> that count for you?

33:15Hi, please state your name.

33:16>> Tim Thorp, Tree Warden, North

33:19Providence.

33:19>> Good evening.

33:20>> Good evening.

33:23>> So, the um proposal um is something

33:26where you have received a copy of the

33:28ordinance. Correct.

33:29>> Uh we did today. Yes.

33:31>> Okay. And this is a draft that has taken

33:35into account some [clears throat] other

33:37local towns, the input from the green

33:39infrastructure center

33:42and um the state law plus the Rhode

33:46Island energy laws for vegetation that

33:48are now in effect. The current town

33:51ordinance, article six, is um from 1995

33:57and it actually will allow us to be a

34:00tree city even with that ordinance. So,

34:02we're not under a time constraint.

34:04>> Great.

34:04>> To get this done, but um every year when

34:07we declare ourselves a tree city, the

34:10ordinance is part of the declaration.

34:12So, we're due for an update and that's

34:13why we're bringing this forward now.

34:15>> Okay. Um Tim, a couple of questions. So,

34:17we we did receive the

34:20um digital copy of the ordinance this

34:22this morning, and we all have paper

34:24copies here. Um I understand that we do

34:27have a an existing ordinance that was um

34:32uh came to fruition in 1995

34:36and

34:39you are you are updating that ordinance.

34:42What um

34:45I

34:48don't I guess what I don't see is how um

34:51what the what the changes are or any

34:55additions or edits or removals are in

34:58the in the format? Um

35:02is it

35:04how intense were your changes? Are there

35:07are there many or are there limited

35:10changes where you can specifically state

35:14what the changes are verbally to this

35:17board for us to confidently make a

35:21recommendation to the town council.

35:25I had when I was [clears throat] working

35:27on it initially, I kept notes of every

35:30item and how I changed it and that

35:32became a whole another document of its

35:35own that I sort of abandoned along the

35:37way, but I can bring that up again. I

35:39would call the changes significant.

35:41>> Okay. Okay.

35:43>> Uh it's not just one or two little

35:44things.

35:45>> Sure.

35:47Um, so with that and understanding that

35:51we're not up against a time constraint,

35:54would you

35:57consider

35:59providing the the document that you

36:03sounds like you have that clearly

36:06identifies

36:08the

36:11added or modified or removed D language

36:16from the ordinance so we can

36:19specifically see what the changes are.

36:22>> Absolutely. Yeah, I would call it a diff

36:24a diff analysis, you know, just to say

36:26this is the current one, this is the new

36:28one, this is what's different and then

36:30>> I can provide that to you all.

36:31>> Would it be possible to do like track

36:33changes? I don't know if

36:35>> it it would

36:38work better to

36:40to to use the diff analysis that I'm

36:43talking about. So, works better.

36:45>> Yeah. All right. I I I think however you

36:48want to format it or which whichever

36:52medium you want to format it in, I think

36:55um is is up to you. The goal would be

36:58just so for the board to clearly

37:00understand what has what has changed.

37:04>> Absolutely.

37:04>> Thank you. [clears throat]

37:05>> Yes. So some things will just be minor

37:07like for example I'm trying to

37:09universally call them public trees.

37:12>> Yep. switching between municipal trees

37:14and public trees and whether

37:16>> consistency is great unless there is a

37:18difference. I don't know if there is but

37:21>> um I just want to call out a few things

37:22that for potential discussion and then

37:24go in that direction of providing you

37:26with a diff and then coming again before

37:27the board.

37:28>> Sure.

37:29>> Um mostly the provisions that are in

37:34here are the they're the same general

37:36ones that were there. It's basically the

37:38town's trees. So, in the easement, in

37:41the parks, in the schools, on town

37:43property, those trees, I [snorts] will

37:45call out one example. Um, in 31148

37:51and 148.1,

37:53there are examples of the town,

38:02you know, requiring owners of trees to

38:06obey the town's rules.

38:10So if for example in 148.1 a tree is um

38:15dead or severely diseased and it's

38:17easing in on property that's public then

38:20we would be able to cite the property

38:23owner to do something about that.

38:26What we would actually do about it is

38:28just suggested here, but I don't know

38:31what the standards are outside of

38:32reading the valley breeze and seeing how

38:34the town has dealt with other town

38:37members who don't take care of their

38:38property in accordance with town

38:40standards.

38:43>> Um, I don't know the answer to that.

38:45That does sound like an enforcement um

38:48question. Brent, I don't know if that

38:50falls under your jurisdiction.

38:54So yeah, generally we send a violation

38:57to the property owner. Um I would say we

38:59we could take out lease C because

39:01generally generally it's the the

39:02property owner's responsibility, not the

39:05whoever resides there. Um and then we

39:09give them the 30 days

39:11to correct it. And if they don't correct

39:13it, that's when the either they go to

39:15court or the fines start acrewing

39:18depending on, you know, the severity of

39:20the violation.

39:23>> [snorts]

39:23>> So when if the property owner is out of

39:27state, isn't that where the designated

39:30agent would come in?

39:31>> Yes. So I think designated agent would

39:34be good because that mean like uh you

39:36know property maintenance people, but

39:38>> um generally it doesn't fall on the

39:40lease.

39:41>> Okay.

39:41>> Yeah.

39:42>> So I'll strike that out. And then these

39:44things of um you know issuing a notice

39:47and then requiring payment or a lean

39:50would be instituted is fairly standard

39:53or yes. So, um, depending on the

39:56severity, sometimes they do, uh, what

39:58they call a lean and clean where they

40:00lean the property, they they clean it

40:01and they, you know, charge the person

40:03the price of the cleanup, right? Um, so

40:09yeah, I think this this follows the

40:11standard um that the town follows. So, I

40:14don't think we should change it too

40:16much.

40:16>> Okay. Another one I wanted to call out

40:19was the compensation for the tree

40:21warden. Uh it's 31155.

40:26It's just sort of seems reasonable that

40:30the mayor and town council would be

40:32working on that, but I think it's just a

40:34budgetary measure. So I just don't

40:35actually know what the process is. So I

40:37wrote this, but I don't I don't know who

40:41sets the compensation. I know it doesn't

40:43change really. So the budget is set by

40:47the town council and uh I believe the

40:49mayor proposes the budget for your

40:52position.

40:53>> Okay.

40:53>> Yeah. So I think that's similar.

40:56>> So that sounds about right then.

40:58>> Yep.

41:00>> Okay. 31157

41:02a tree preservation fund.

41:07>> Not diff not terribly different from the

41:09land trusts fund. The idea would be

41:13that there is a fund dedicated to tree

41:16preservation in the town. That it would

41:19not be funded by tax taxes, but that

41:22people could donate to it and that um

41:24fines would go into it and that it would

41:27not renew into the annual budget or be

41:29zeroed out annually, but that it would

41:31stay in the fund and could help

41:35residents with private tree matters that

41:38they could apply for that money. I would

41:40hope it would acrue to a matter where it

41:42would be helpful to people who have

41:43significant trees. And then on the next

41:45line down, a voluntary significant

41:48inherited tree registry. This would

41:50enable people to make applications to

41:52use those funds.

41:57Just requesting some thoughts on th on

41:59those.

42:18So, was that a recommendation by the

42:19Green Infrastructure Bank?

42:23>> No, I came up with that one myself.

42:26They liked it.

42:36So, we have something set up like this

42:37for the land trust where a percentage of

42:40each building permit gets put into a uh

42:43a trust fund.

42:46So,

42:47>> this needs to get ratified by the town

42:48council. Is that correct?

42:49>> It would. Yeah, that that's how it's

42:51that's how it's proposed to us.

42:54>> I just want I just want to read this.

43:09Tim, thank you for calling our attention

43:12to both of those items. Um,

43:15and Angelica, thank you for also noting

43:18that um, the board's

43:22uh, responsibility here is is simply a

43:25recommendation to the town council and

43:27the town council inevitably

43:30um, has authority to uh, accept or deny

43:35or make modifications to this.

43:38>> Oh, makes sense.

43:40>> Yeah. Were those the only items you

43:42wanted to highlight tonight?

43:44>> I have one additional one and that will

43:46be all. Okay. Um, if you look at 31144,

43:50>> at the end of the [clears throat] first

43:52paragraph, it references the North

43:53Providence Tree Technical Standards

43:56Manual. Um, what I'm trying to do here

43:59[clears throat] is to separate out

44:02concepts that are really arborist

44:05concepts like tree topping and critical

44:07root zone protections

44:10to keep it out of the law so that

44:13arborists can make changes to the law as

44:16they feel necessary using excuse me the

44:20law I I just used the wrong word in two

44:22spots so pardon me for a minute. The

44:25manual does not currently exist. Okay.

44:27>> The idea would be that the manual would

44:29be the rules for the town that are the

44:31technical um ways that we do things

44:36and that they would be

44:40enforced through the law but not

44:42approved by the town council.

44:46So the tree board

44:48would be in charge of the technical

44:51standards.

44:54and that the ordinance just references

44:57the tree standards so that if there are

45:00needs to change that the approval

45:02process for any change would be done by

45:04the tree board not by the planning

45:06committee and the town council.

45:11This is how the city of or the town of

45:13Warren does it and it's considered a

45:15best practice.

45:19The alternative is to fill the ordinance

45:21with a lot of technical standards that

45:24you might not

45:26be very um equipped to approve or

45:29decline depending on your background

45:32with tree maintenance and construction

45:34standards around trees.

45:38>> Understood. Um, if you

45:42if if if I was a council member and

45:47uh I'm assuming you're going to be the

45:50one presenting this to the to the

45:51council.

45:52>> Mhm.

45:53um having

45:56the

45:58um

46:00technical standards manual with with you

46:03>> and [clears throat]

46:05>> um summarizing some key key things in

46:08there to to get them a little bit more

46:10familiar with it maybe maybe a good

46:12idea. Um,

46:16it's actually really good for me to just

46:17meet with you and hear that feedback

46:19because that's what I was thinking too,

46:20but I just didn't want to go full hog

46:22and and write it out. Yeah. Kind of ran

46:24out of time, too. But

46:30okay. Well, thank Sorry. Thank you for

46:34that. Does the board have any um

46:36questions for Tim?

46:36>> Yeah, I have a couple of questions. Um

46:40position, is that a full-time or

46:41part-time position? part-time.

46:43>> Part-time. Okay. Uh I don't see any

46:47place in here,

46:49uh you know, maybe under section 31-140,

46:54you know, where it states that it's a

46:56part-time position.

46:59>> Um well, it doesn't have to be. In some

47:02towns, it's a full-time position. In

47:04Providence, there's a whole team of

47:05people that are involved in these

47:06duties, but it

47:07>> Yeah, but for North Providence, it's

47:09going to be a a part-time position. it I

47:11think it is it um

47:14well like so in terms of the ordinance

47:17itself if you just want to if the town

47:19wanted to have a full-time tree warden

47:21then they could do that as part of the

47:23compensation planning

47:26>> I think if we leave it open it gives us

47:27the option

47:28>> it it does

47:30maybe lon one

47:33um one suggestion

47:36>> would be

47:38um

47:41very similar to the the manner in which

47:43you describe the compensation is that

47:46the um

47:48number of hours that the that the

47:50position requires can be can be set by

47:53the well

47:56shall be established by the mayor and

47:57the town council

48:01that would work. So that makes sense to

48:03me and I but I will say that like

48:05largely the position is volunteer.

48:08>> So

48:10much and thank you for the hard work.

48:12>> Yeah. He he was getting $25 a week

48:16for a while. We're looking for more

48:18funds. So uh the time he spends is

48:21worthwhile.

48:23>> Yep.

48:25[snorts]

48:25>> Yep. But Lou, I I I

48:27>> I think it's a good point.

48:28>> I don't think we should be setting the

48:30the the boundaries, but if if the

48:32boundaries should be set, we in in the

48:35board's um recommendation would be to um

48:38establish how those boundaries are set

48:40in the ordinance, then we can we can

48:43further discuss it. Um or

48:48um because we're not we're not going to

48:51be able to give Tim a recommendation

48:53tonight. Okay. I think that's some

48:56positive feedback or it is.

48:58>> Yeah,

48:58>> it it could be noted in the compensation

49:01uh when that is uh

49:05determined by the mayor and the town

49:07town council. Um

49:10the other thing that I was wondering uh

49:13when it comes to municipal property uh I

49:15see you know you list uh you know public

49:18schools and and you know some of the

49:20other

49:22areas where municipal buildings are are

49:26located. Um I was just wondering if if

49:30we should add in there also uh town

49:33sidewalks. A lot of people think that

49:35their property goes right up to the uh

49:37the curb line or the edge of pavement

49:40and many people don't even realize that

49:43the first five or six feet is actually

49:47town property and many times the trees

49:49are planted in that area. I was just

49:51wondering if it would it would uh

49:54be clear if if we just state also that

49:58that is also part of the town property

50:01the uh the sidewalk area.

50:04>> So the the easement I think easement I

50:07believe it's called is um or the right

50:09of way

50:10>> right away. Yeah.

50:12>> Um so this is article six. Is that

50:14defined elsewhere in the zoning or

50:18>> so? Rightway should be defined I I've

50:21never actually checked for definition

50:24>> in the the land use.

50:26>> Yeah, it's it's defined somewhere. I'm

50:28sure either subdivision regulations or

50:30zoning,

50:31>> right?

50:32>> Um but generally it's not an easement

50:34because an ement has to be recorded and

50:36it grants someone specifically

50:39>> Oh, okay.

50:40>> a right per a purpose. Oh, I get you.

50:43Yep. I'm picturing one right now. Um but

50:45that so the the 10 ft or so that are

50:50designated for the sidewalk.

50:52>> Yes.

50:53>> So

50:53>> look right away.

50:54>> Yeah. So I I think to um

51:01to keep So if if something is if

51:04something right the the space that the

51:06physical space that Lou is is

51:08referencing is already defined somewhere

51:12in town documentation that that that's

51:15where we we keep that definition and

51:18what that area is called can be just can

51:21be referred to by by this ordinance.

51:25I would I would not define what that

51:27area is, but I would just reference it

51:30as it's as it stated in

51:34the other document that

51:35>> right

51:36>> already exists.

51:38>> That's a great suggestion. I I'll add

51:39that to um my review and then add that

51:41to the ordinance.

51:50>> That's all I have.

51:51>> Okay.

51:53What?

51:55>> Steve. Yeah, I have a couple of comments

51:57and a question. Uh, I like that it's a

52:013:1 replacement. So, for every one tree

52:05that's, you know, dead, you're going to

52:08plant three trees.

52:09>> Mhm.

52:10>> Uh, I like the uh inventory that you're

52:13going to be taking. But over the years

52:17in the town, a lot of trees have come

52:19down. We've spoken Tim prior to this

52:21ordinance that one area is North Elmore

52:27and in North Elmore trees have fallen

52:30down and have been left there. Then

52:33people come by and they think they can

52:35add

52:37a branch of a tree and throw it in

52:39there. And then if it's not addressed,

52:42what happens? People start littering in

52:46the area. So I'm very happy about this.

52:49I'm very happy that you're on board. But

52:51I guess my question is what's going to

52:53be your plan and how you how are you

52:56going to develop a plan to eliminate all

53:00the deadwood

53:01and all this municipal property?

53:05What plan do you have? Are you going to

53:08Is this going to be some sort of a grant

53:10where you'll get bring in some money and

53:13then hire people to clean this up?

53:17Uh I'm just wondering what your plan

53:20would be going forward.

53:24>> So the

53:26I'll say first of all that it's been

53:28about one year since I started this job

53:31and I haven't done any tree removals in

53:34that time.

53:36Primarily the plan has been to use

53:38northeastern tree to do the removals.

53:40And if the tree falls,

53:43you know, in a place where cars are and

53:45where there's traffic, then it's cut out

53:49and removed and they do what they want

53:51with it, you know.

53:52>> Yeah.

53:52>> Uh North Elmore, I think you're talking

53:54about more of like a a small forest

53:56basically, right?

53:57>> Right. And so I don't think that I don't

54:01know of any grants that would fund the

54:03removal of deadwood from a forest

54:05because it doesn't serve any ecological

54:07benefit.

54:08>> Yeah.

54:08>> You know, the deadwood is a habitat for

54:10wildlife and it just rots and becomes

54:12part of the forest which

54:15you know, as a side note, I once viewed

54:19Bill Cosby's um home in Western Mass and

54:22he had his forest ra.

54:26So, it's just trees and raked ground.

54:31>> I think the removal would be just for

54:33trees that pose some kind of safety

54:36concern.

54:38>> So, then how would you replace a tree

54:40that has fallen? You're going to just

54:42plant a tree next to the fallen tree.

54:45>> Well, which um which which um I know I

54:49remember writing it, but I don't I want

54:50to look at it while we're talking about

54:51it. So, is it down on 147? Is that the

54:54one? No, it's North Elmore.

54:57>> No, I mean which ordinance are we

54:59talking about? Oh, 145.

55:02>> Yes.

55:04>> Okay. So, this is dealing with when

55:06we're removing a public tree in

55:08connection with the widening of a street

55:10or repairing a sidewalk or other

55:12infrastructure. So, that doesn't really

55:15fit in with the North Elmore situation

55:18because we're not doing any of those

55:20things.

55:20>> That That's my question.

55:21>> Okay. So, what's going to happen to an

55:24area like that that people think they

55:27can then throw away a tree branch that

55:31fell off their tree in an area like

55:34North Elmore? Could be some other area

55:36also.

55:39What's going to transpire? This

55:41continues to happen. Now, public works

55:44has been good enough to remove those

55:47tree branches when I've reached out,

55:50>> right? But I think there should be some

55:52sort of a plan.

55:55So, you know, you're talking about a

55:58fallen tree, but I'm talking about

55:59somebody threw a a bed frame out on

56:02North Elmore about a month ago because

56:06they see all this other tree limbs,

56:09branches dead that are on that property.

56:14>> Is the part on North Elmore that you're

56:16talking about, is that town owned?

56:18>> Yes, it is. Would you describe it as

56:20similar to Camp Mihan?

56:23>> No, it's a much smaller area.

56:25>> It's smaller and there's no actual

56:28venue. Correct.

56:29>> Correct.

56:29>> Yeah. Um, and is anyone in particular Is

56:33it a park?

56:35>> No,

56:36>> it's not a park.

56:37>> No.

56:40>> Is it preservation land?

56:44Are you talking near

56:45>> I believe

56:46>> are you talking where the the pumping

56:48station is

56:49>> right

56:50>> or are you talking further up where

56:51>> I'm talking after the pumper station and

56:54>> where they put the water treatment.

56:56>> I mean I believe it's conservation land

56:58and there is a recreational facility on

57:00the property in the far corner behind

57:02the rowous.

57:04>> Yeah.

57:04>> Which is technically still the same

57:06property.

57:07>> So the closest comparative property

57:09would be the Peter Randall Park.

57:11>> Yeah. It's it's a naturally vegetative

57:13area with one section that is developed

57:17into a playground and then there's a

57:20area that's developed into like a

57:22retention pond like a step down.

57:24>> Yeah, I've seen that.

57:25>> Yeah. So part of it's maintained, part

57:27of it's natural.

57:29>> So I think part of the question has to

57:30do with like what do we do with that one

57:33parcel of land?

57:34>> But there's a lot of parcels of land

57:36like that. And if you look on or on

57:38Waterman Avenue, there's another parcel

57:40on the land.

57:42>> Yep. So, I'm familiar with that. And

57:43somebody threw out a piece of a coach.

57:46>> So, I believe that's actually the same

57:47piece of property. Um,

57:50>> that's that it extends to.

57:52>> Yeah. The same lot.

57:52>> Yes.

57:54>> So, I just don't know that what you're

57:56talking about best fits in the tree

57:59ordinance because

58:02it has to do with illegal dumping on

58:04town property.

58:05>> Yeah. Yeah. Before that, I said that

58:07there's trees that have fallen there

58:10over the years.

58:11>> Yeah.

58:12>> Will you replace those trees? So, I

58:15think the answer is no.

58:17>> Okay.

58:18>> Because that land and the Randall

58:20Parkland are going to naturally have

58:24it's a natural forest habitat where

58:26acorns and hickory nuts will make new

58:29trees.

58:31Um,

58:34I'm not adamantly against planting new

58:37trees within a forest. It's just not

58:39something that I'm familiar with doing

58:41because I've I've hiked in both of those

58:44forests and there's a lot of trees.

58:47Whereas, when I walk through Charles

58:50Street, there's almost no trees. So the

58:54highest priority from a grant funding

58:56perspective has always been on building

59:00the canopy in the areas that have no

59:02trees.

59:04>> Okay.

59:07But I think the question of the refu

59:11still should be addressed in the town

59:13ordinance if people are dropping off TV

59:16sets and garbage in the middle of our

59:19>> Well, I think they're dropping it there

59:21because of branches falling off the tree

59:24and and other people who've lost a

59:26branch of a tree in their yard throw it

59:28there. They dump it there. I don't know

59:30why. I can't tell you. I'm not sure why

59:32either because the town will actually

59:34come and ship their branch if they just

59:36call DPW.

59:37>> Exactly. Right.

59:39>> Maybe they don't know that. So maybe

59:41that's the reason. [clears throat]

59:43>> Okay. Thank you.

59:46>> Yeah. Thank you, Steve.

59:49>> Okay. So we provided. So thank you for

59:53um

59:56pointing out certain sections that you

1:00:00wish to um

1:00:04for us to focus on tonight. I I think

1:00:07once we receive the

1:00:11um the copy of the of of your how your

1:00:15changes were doc documented be very

1:00:18helpful. And um I look forward to

1:00:21receiving that and

1:00:24um that information will be very

1:00:26valuable in assisting the board in

1:00:28making a recommendation to the council.

1:00:30>> Okay, great. I will provide that to

1:00:32Brent in the coming week or two.

1:00:34>> Yeah, that'll be Yep. the sooner you get

1:00:37it to Brent the um

1:00:41prior to our next meeting which we

1:00:45just established as I don't even the 10

1:00:48the 10th I believe November 10th

1:00:51um

1:00:52so make ensure that you talk to Brent as

1:00:56to when the last day he would need it

1:00:58from you for for him in order to uh

1:01:02distribute it to us so we can review it

1:01:05prior to that meeting.

1:01:08That'll be very helpful to him.

1:01:09>> Sounds good. I'll I'll take care of

1:01:11that. Thank you.

1:01:11>> Thank you. I generally distribute one

1:01:13week prior. So, if you could get it to

1:01:15me before and one week prior.

1:01:18>> Okay. I will get it into the package.

1:01:20>> I need to have it to you before

1:01:22Halloween.

1:01:23>> Yeah, take care of it. Okay.

1:01:25>> That's plenty of time.

1:01:27>> All right. Thank you all.

1:01:28>> Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Tim.

1:01:40I just did that

1:01:42to do that.

1:01:43>> Okay. Um, next on our uh agenda is

1:01:48public hearing regarding the request

1:01:49seeking community development block

1:01:51grant project proposals.

1:01:55And

1:01:57this agenda item

1:01:59for the for those still left in the

1:02:02public and for the board. Brent, you can

1:02:05stop me if I'm incorrect, but the board

1:02:09has no action regarding

1:02:14this present this agenda item, this

1:02:16presentation. The board is basically

1:02:20this is an avenue for a public hearing

1:02:24for community development block grant

1:02:27project proposals.

1:02:28>> Yes. So there's a application process.

1:02:31Uh the round's coming up soon. So we

1:02:34have to seek

1:02:36ideas for an application.

1:02:39>> We meaning who?

1:02:41>> The town.

1:02:42>> The town.

1:02:42>> And that requires a public hearing.

1:02:44>> Yep.

1:02:45CDBG falls underneath planning and

1:02:47zoning. So within my department so it's

1:02:50scheduled on correct

1:02:51>> in this avenue.

1:02:52>> Correct. But the presentation is is is

1:02:55not towards the

1:02:58the board. It's towards the public.

1:03:00>> It's to the public. Yes.

1:03:01>> Okay.

1:03:04>> So how are you?

1:03:06>> Okay. And

1:03:07>> yes Maria Rose Takuma and

1:03:10>> that down. Thank you.

1:03:12>> Better better now. Okay. Thank you. So

1:03:15nice to meet you, Maria Rosa Zakuma,

1:03:18CVDG project manager for North

1:03:21Providence. So we do have right now an

1:03:24opportunity for competing towards to $1

1:03:27million budget that they have state of

1:03:30Rhode Island in this cycle $1 million

1:03:33plus

1:03:34for CBDG grants. CBDG grants this year

1:03:38is going to be getting towards to public

1:03:40services and as well facilities you know

1:03:44perhaps anything about improvement

1:03:48in this case we are soliciting um to

1:03:53have as a rule for competition two

1:03:55public hearings in this one it was one

1:03:58of them and the competition started or

1:04:01was announced in early week of September

1:04:05was like around September rate and

1:04:08basically we actually by the time that

1:04:11they that they actually provide the the

1:04:14requests and we already pass our

1:04:17meeting. So this is the first meeting we

1:04:20have and we are in a schedule for the

1:04:22second meeting will be in November 3rd

1:04:24where will be the resolution with uh the

1:04:27con favor. Uh this objective of the day

1:04:31today to come over is to propose a

1:04:34projects and we opening to the public

1:04:37was published in u entry of the of the

1:04:42town hall as well in the public

1:04:46police department as well in the library

1:04:49and in the newspaper of course with the

1:04:52previous you know like sufficient time

1:04:5515 days before pre you know like our

1:04:58meeting right now today. So it's been

1:05:00plenty announcement and they have you

1:05:03know in the past we have been have a

1:05:05forgery and as well county who's been

1:05:08part of the program and they have been

1:05:10active in working with the community and

1:05:13this year they they are very busy in

1:05:16their own and they are pursuing

1:05:19different route. So we are actually

1:05:22pursuing with only towns projects so

1:05:25far. Uh today at 4:00 was the time for

1:05:28public to actually do proposals. So

1:05:31other nonprofits organizations could be

1:05:33actually coming along and we didn't

1:05:36receive anything so far. So until 4. So

1:05:40therefore we have two proposals that we

1:05:42discussed with Bren and as well with the

1:05:45mayor regarding where the town want to

1:05:48be able to pursuit. So the town want to

1:05:52be able to consider in two items for the

1:05:54public and to opinate and to you know to

1:05:59be able to give in the okay and blessing

1:06:01for go for it. The project number one is

1:06:04actually land acquisition and the land

1:06:07acquisition is um is an area where we'll

1:06:10be funding um um sorry project number

1:06:15one will be a facade improvement project

1:06:18program where will be done in the areas

1:06:21of central and marville

1:06:23and is for low moderate income people

1:06:26and in cliles and as well in areas of

1:06:30benefits where actually we have some

1:06:32blind h spots by the census and it will

1:06:37be you know part of under hood Rhode

1:06:40Island office of housing and community

1:06:43development or HDC that's the the

1:06:47abbreviation for their office so we are

1:06:50ruling and we are following the rules

1:06:53from them in order to classify and in

1:06:55order to actually compete and the

1:06:58justification of these projects will be

1:07:00depends on the census

1:07:02like I mentioned before and in and the

1:07:04census block group eligibility,

1:07:07commercial corridor conditions in public

1:07:09health. Uh why? because we want to be

1:07:12able to have that area of central

1:07:15central in Mville. It is edging and

1:07:19business needs help and the major feel

1:07:22that we could help them you know if we

1:07:25actually provide some funding and have

1:07:29the opportunity to be able to asking for

1:07:31that funding. So if we get the okay from

1:07:34you from the public we will be able to

1:07:37compete and as well we will be asking

1:07:41for funding. Now, how much funding we

1:07:43want to be able to ask for? That's part

1:07:45of today's, you know, hurrying. We can

1:07:48ask $1 million. We can ask 500 to be

1:07:52moderate. I think the 500,000 that's

1:07:54kind of like more likely going forward.

1:07:57How much it will be done for um each

1:08:01business who will be qualified under

1:08:04those conditions census and as well the

1:08:06office of community develop grant in

1:08:09Rhode Island. And it will be determined

1:08:12you know obviously by the qualifications

1:08:14of them. How much we can be able to give

1:08:17them is depends about the amount of

1:08:20money that we actually decide and how

1:08:22much money we can provide them. Um the

1:08:25conditions meet the criteria for the

1:08:28sunlight and as well for spots and the

1:08:3224 CFR

1:08:34570.208B

1:08:36208B

1:08:38which is part of the regulations of you

1:08:40know community develop grants in Rhode

1:08:43Island and the main objectives as

1:08:45benefit from improvements were being

1:08:48served the public will be served and

1:08:50increase you know walkability perhaps

1:08:53economic de you know viability and more

1:08:57strong support towards small business I

1:08:59think that will be benefit everybody in

1:09:01the community and it will be more safer

1:09:05because we can be able to improve those

1:09:07facads and it will gather people and it

1:09:10will be attract other people to be able

1:09:12to be part of the community.

1:09:14>> Great. Maria, can I interrupt just for

1:09:16one second? Does anybody from the board

1:09:18have any any questions as of right now?

1:09:22>> Yes.

1:09:23>> Can you be specific as to what these

1:09:26funds would be used for? Are you saying

1:09:28used for sidewalks or like better

1:09:30lighting in the area? Is that what

1:09:32you're suggesting?

1:09:34>> No. We are actually well part of that it

1:09:37is actually using for business for

1:09:41private business but they are has to be

1:09:44in explo in in an area of the census

1:09:48with the low motor income business and

1:09:51small businesses.

1:09:52>> So Steve my idea was facade improvement

1:09:55grant improvement um for the commercial

1:09:58corridor down Charles Street. Um it's in

1:10:01the low to moderate income which

1:10:02qualifies it for the CDBG grants. Would

1:10:06>> that be similar inhale?

1:10:08>> Yes,

1:10:09>> it would. Centerdale is not as as low to

1:10:12moderate income though. So Mville is is

1:10:16actually like a low to moderate income

1:10:18census tract.

1:10:19>> But you mentioned Senadale.

1:10:21>> Yes. Because they are very minor and is

1:10:24why I mentioned it has to be by the

1:10:27census. It has to comply by the census.

1:10:29the low mo income and as well with the

1:10:32rules of the of the CBDG you know

1:10:35housing you know develop community

1:10:37develop grant regulations so that's why

1:10:41we have to comply so the people who are

1:10:43located right there perhaps a small

1:10:45business like the little bakery down the

1:10:48street um a hair salon or I don't know

1:10:52somebody who had an arts and crafts or

1:10:54something like that somebody with a

1:10:56piano lessons

1:10:57>> any building that needs a facade

1:11:00improvement

1:11:00>> and they need a facade improvement with

1:11:02lining and all that. So it's only the

1:11:04facade how much money we give them to

1:11:07you know to be able to do the businesses

1:11:10depending and how many businesses we

1:11:12will serve is depend upon how much money

1:11:15we asking for and how much money we win

1:11:18for it. So asking and competing doesn't

1:11:20mean that our providence will get those

1:11:23fundings. That means that we looking to

1:11:27knock a door into the funding of the

1:11:29state and asking for help and see if we

1:11:32can get favor to it. We competing with

1:11:35territory municipalities. Everybody had

1:11:37different projects, different

1:11:38priorities. Our priority this year is

1:11:41the public as supporting a small

1:11:43business as community and as well we

1:11:47have another project that we want to be

1:11:49able to asking for it as well.

1:11:52>> Thank you. Yeah. Any questions? Anything

1:11:55comments?

1:11:56>> No, I think that was a great question

1:11:58and you provided great um uh good

1:12:02response for us to understand a little

1:12:04bit better. If you can um summarize

1:12:07and give us a conclusion, I think that

1:12:10would be that would be great.

1:12:11>> Perfect. Thank you so much. I appreciate

1:12:13it. So basically in this project number

1:12:17one will be the facads improvement. what

1:12:21it will be categorized for a facade

1:12:23improvement. Somebody who needs perhaps

1:12:25a a better uh publish or add

1:12:28announcements and the entry it will be

1:12:31maybe windows or doors or maybe a

1:12:34sidewalk to get inside the building

1:12:36perhaps and it will be a code violation

1:12:38perhaps some business has code

1:12:40violations but they don't have the

1:12:41funding for it. We can help out with

1:12:44that. How much money that will be

1:12:46depends about it and we will be go back

1:12:48to that part. The next project I want to

1:12:51be able to do introduce to you guys is

1:12:53actually the project for h land

1:12:57acquisition. The major field it is a

1:13:00very good

1:13:02opportunity for town of north province

1:13:04to acquire some land. We as we all know

1:13:09town of north province is very

1:13:11populated. It's not much that we can

1:13:14span and recreate or enjoy because

1:13:16there's no much greenery. So the the

1:13:19measure was mentioned about and the

1:13:21opportunity to have acquired the land

1:13:24and that will be for the nuns for the

1:13:26Franciscan nuns and fruit hill perhaps

1:13:30in that area. So if we can be able to

1:13:32get that land those buildings and reuse

1:13:36those buildings towards to put perhaps a

1:13:4150 plus you know housing units for

1:13:44people who are clintile who were 50

1:13:46years in plus. That way we serve in a

1:13:49limited client. We complying with the

1:13:52objective of the CVDG grants as well. We

1:13:56have the opportunity to benefit to

1:13:58everybody in the community and

1:14:00especially people who are low moderate

1:14:02income with 50 plus and as well the

1:14:04mayor want the rest of it of the land

1:14:08keep it like that and enjoying by the

1:14:11kids. So develop a playground area so

1:14:14where the kids and families can enjoy

1:14:16that greenery scenario because the worry

1:14:19is that maybe some other developer

1:14:22coming over and it will be land all the

1:14:25land it will be just buildings. So and

1:14:29the way that we can be able to propose

1:14:32this project it will serving us for two

1:14:34objectives. Number one, we will serving

1:14:37people 50 plus, you know, low moderate

1:14:40income to access towards to a house or a

1:14:44living space perhaps. As well, we will

1:14:48helping us to have greenery and a space

1:14:52to breathe in in the town and preserve a

1:14:55land and preserve historical and helping

1:14:57the kids to be able to have

1:14:59entertainment, enjoy, and families can

1:15:01be able to continue enjoy that piece of

1:15:03land. So

1:15:04>> well presented. Do you have a third

1:15:07project?

1:15:08>> Uh no those are the two projects the two

1:15:11>> and we are open to listen any other

1:15:14suggestions of projects that you guys

1:15:16may think they will be it will be

1:15:18important for the town to to consider.

1:15:21>> Dave you can open up the public hearing.

1:15:25Uh thank you. Public hearing is open.

1:15:31>> No. Okay.

1:15:33>> Yeah. Nobody from the public. Um,

1:15:36>> thank you. So,

1:15:37>> my I guess a recommendation would be to

1:15:40to continue to um

1:15:44uh preserve our um ability to enjoy

1:15:49North Providence's natural resources.

1:15:52Um,

1:15:54similar to what you had spoken about on

1:15:57on Fruit Hill, but in a in a in a maybe

1:16:01a grander scale. regarding um Wen Scott

1:16:04reservoir um on either side of the uh

1:16:08the Route 7 um

1:16:12um

1:16:14road. Um, I think it's it's unique that

1:16:17our our town being so urban as we are

1:16:20have that um have that water there. And

1:16:23uh I think continuing to um

1:16:30invest time and effort in allowing our

1:16:33town

1:16:35residents to enjoy that natural resource

1:16:37to the best of our ability would be

1:16:40would be um time well served. So it

1:16:43would be in this case a preservation

1:16:45effort. It would be buying the land. It

1:16:47would be perhaps beautififications or

1:16:49maintenance or anything specifically

1:16:51that you would like me to be able to

1:16:53include it.

1:16:55>> Um

1:16:57no I just you know I I I know our high

1:17:03school has cross country teams.

1:17:05>> Okay. and their cross country team has

1:17:10um really no

1:17:14land in North Providence that they can

1:17:16really practice on um compared to other

1:17:21schools that they they meet with and

1:17:24race like in Lincoln and Smithfield and

1:17:28Cumberland.

1:17:30um all of those other towns actually

1:17:32have

1:17:34land that can

1:17:36accommodate a cross-country meet and

1:17:40North Providence does not. Um and I I

1:17:43don't know where that if if there's any

1:17:46available land to accommodate that sort

1:17:49of um function or trail. I think that

1:17:54would be um great to review and to to

1:17:57look into that. Thank you. Yeah,

1:17:59certainly that will be able to include

1:18:01it in the land that we planning to

1:18:03acquisition. Again, this is a proposal.

1:18:06It doesn't mean that the we we can be

1:18:08able to approach to the people who own

1:18:10the land and they can say no, you know,

1:18:13we can be able to propose this project

1:18:16and they can go in the government and

1:18:18say we don't have we're not going to

1:18:20give you the funding.

1:18:22So we depends about those who know

1:18:24categories but we certainly can be able

1:18:27to have a start conversation because you

1:18:29guys you know as a public they giving

1:18:31the permission and guys blessing that

1:18:34that is a good effort for the north

1:18:37providence town and the trail it will be

1:18:42marvelous to be able to do in that part

1:18:44because it's plenty of space it's big

1:18:47enough to accommodate that type of need.

1:18:50>> Thank you. Thank you.

1:18:52>> Close the public hearing and the public

1:18:54hearing is closed.

1:18:56>> Yeah. Thank you.

1:18:57>> Thank you for your presentation.

1:18:58>> The amount of money the amount of money

1:19:00that you guys want to be able to

1:19:02actually

1:19:05request for it is any specifically

1:19:08amount of money for the for the facads

1:19:10perhaps for the facas project for

1:19:12project number one.

1:19:13>> So they're not voting on anything. This

1:19:15is just a public hearing. Okay. So you

1:19:17can announce it to the public. pretty

1:19:19much it will be like uh 500,000

1:19:22that will be fine and we can be able to

1:19:25give them to each one of the businesses

1:19:29maybe perhaps as much as 50,000. So we

1:19:32will have several businesses they can be

1:19:35able to benefit to it. That's

1:19:38>> so our board here doesn't have any

1:19:40action to take or um

1:19:44input to give you on on monetary values.

1:19:48So, but that's a proposal that will be

1:19:51made sense perhaps. So, we can help them

1:19:54with 50,000.

1:19:55>> Yeah, that makes sense.

1:19:56>> I think the concept makes sense. Um, how

1:19:59you how you quantify how much it's going

1:20:01to cost, I I do not know, but

1:20:04>> so 50 to 100,000 and

1:20:06>> whatever the council

1:20:07>> whatever the council

1:20:08>> the voting on it,

1:20:10>> whatever the council body for it

1:20:12afterwards. So, thank you so much for

1:20:14your time, for your input, and we

1:20:17appreciate it. You support.

1:20:18>> Thank you.

1:20:19>> Thank you.

1:20:21>> Okay, that is um agenda item number

1:20:24five. I will entertain a motion to

1:20:26adjurnn.

1:20:28>> Motion to adjurnn.

1:20:30>> Mr. Patassi makes the motion. Do I hear

1:20:32a second?

1:20:33>> Second.

1:20:33>> Mr. Dukio seconds. All in favor? I. Any

1:20:37opposed? Hearing none. Meeting is

1:20:39adjourned. Thank you.