2026-10-28 - Public Works Committee

It is 7 o'clock. We'll go ahead and get started. I'll note that everybody on the committee is here, except we do have Councilmember East 74, Councilmember Antrim. Thanks for meeting here. You're

welcome. We'll open up with many comments. I've got a comment, and if anybody else has anything to share, feel free. So last week for my day job, I got to go to the Active Transportation Academy in

northwest Arkansas, and came with a little field guide which I'll pass around for anybody interested in bruising. But, you know, pretty interesting to hear about the infrastructure they have in

development in those sort of places, and certainly some cool active transportation infrastructure that they've implemented recently. But it also struck me that in Kansas City Metro, we have quite a

bit of good active transportation infrastructure out there. Oftentimes it is disconnected from each other. There's gaps in connectivity. And some people know about other people don't, but I want to

say northwest Arkansas is doing a lot of great stuff. And I think I left that recognizing that we've got a pretty good base in our metro to build from certainly, you know, room for improvement in

areas, doing gaps and so forth. And I think we've got a good, good base to move on from so any other committee comments from folks. So it's a stay on the topic. Yeah, $70 million on trail

infrastructure down there most like from the Walton family is fantastic. But it sounds like now they would have trails to other linkages, maybe more roads, knowing that they're going to be exploding

in the population by 2050. That was a street and that was that was a really released this week. So I don't know if your conference, you know, talked about that but when you have that many people

coming in, you really are starting to bust up the scenes in terms of that infrastructure. And I think it touched a little bit on you could also kind of just tell that there's a lot of new development

and redevelopment happening and and of course that's why it's important to secure those easements and those connections, you know, early on. And so that you don't lose them as development occurs. But

it was interesting, we were riding on trails behind through apartment complexes through office campuses. I mean, it was, it was not just all you know streamways owned by the city, it was connected all

over. Any other committee comments. And just happen to be some right. Thank you. Well, I just want to take the opportunity to go over one item. It's a reminder that we have our annual snow rally

taking place next Wednesday, November 4, we started at 730am. We will have more than 150 of our snow team members participants there will enjoy breakfast with them and the time just to see the great

group that is in there and has been trained as the month, not only doing classroom training but also driving training so that they could be ready for the 2026 2027 winter season, following the snow

rally on Thursday, November 5, the team is going to conduct a dry run of snow operations they normally split into two reporting groups. One for the morning session once for the afternoon and there's

several key objectives we have that day, they're practicing their software mapping dispatchers drivers practicing how they assign accept navigate routes manage waypoints and closing out tasks. They

also were trying to get them familiar with their routes. So they had hands on practice during their side routes, and they also work a little bit on equipment troubleshooting in ways to identify and

resolve any hardware or tech issues that they may have prior to the winter event so we look forward hope you can all join us and really get to enjoy a great group. Thank you. Thanks. You mentioned

tech, and I've been around long enough to know that we've changed at least once the tracking of the snowplows, people love seeing, you know, the snowplows, it's almost like Pac Man for them to watch

so are we using the same same technology that we'd use previously and any updates, you know, on that the snowplow tracking. Yes, actually we will be using the same software that we introduced last

year. So our first information item tonight will be Josh will be giving us no briefing, so we'll kind of do an overview of our program for this year. So yeah, excited about that. We had great success

with it on its first year so getting better at it and looking forward to having that important for this year. Thank you. All right, we'll move to our final info item. Josh has talked as well to see

the program for this. Thank you. Good evening, video members, have you over live on the board there so public works tries to give this briefing annually, just to let the committee know and the rest of

the council know kind of state of affairs where we are. We're going to keep it fresh and do something new every year this this year, with a number of new council members we thought we would kind of go

back to basics and just cover one on one. I'll be honest I explain more than just basic I got really to the details so I might move quickly because there's a lot of information here but here we go so

we'll cover kind of snow operations little one. We have a number of frequently asked questions in here, just to kind of ask the answer for you also that when you're working with your constituents you

have those answers ready, and then give you all an opportunity to ask your questions. Snow operations, let me back that one up I do want to note, I believe today is national first responders day. So

that was a good place to stick that image on that slide. So, for our operations will just do an operations review, and then kind of break down of the operations in in detail and expectations for so

the equipment that we run our tandem actual dump trucks, those typically are assigned to thoroughfares, what we call route trucks routes or that's our nickname for a thoroughfare street, single actual

dump trucks are the residential trucks or what we call area trucks because they're assigned specific residential. So, kind of running with that then the street types are the thoroughfare, which are

assigned by routes, and those are our priority ones collector streets, which are actually part of the residential area. But those are priority twos. And then the rest of the residential streets within

the area, the priority groups and numbers that way because that's generally how we attack them during. For our route trucks the tandem actual trucks in a standard event, right, they would do priority

one streets when they're complete with those, the thoroughfare streets that would move on to their priority twos essentially help on the collector streets. They might sometimes get into priority three

streets, it's kind of limited what they can do because of the size of them the length of them there, don't have as tight a turning radius it's really hard to navigate. Same second single actual truck

I'd hate to even try to do it in tandem actual trucks, but they do occasionally help so our area trucks run priority twos they generally start there first. When our collectors are cleared then they

move on to the residential streets so final cleanup typically occurs after our normal shift work has ended. And that is a combination of city staff, usually we get reduced down to just maintenance

employees at that point because our shift work has ended. And we do have a contractor that comes in and brings in heavy equipment. Skid steers, back hose, loaders, whatever those kind of things that

they can use to help clean the snow out of the center of cul-a-sac if we get enough to water that. We used to call them cul-a-sac contractors we've switched to final cleanup contractors because we

don't want confusion that do not have separate contractors that just do. The snow map for our map assignments we have 10 separate routes on those routes that are 23 trucks assigned at 17 tandems and

we do have a few single axles that help. Most of our routes are plowed as a team, right, so we have a lead truck and a follow truck. They will kind of halfway through the shift usually switch

positions for the material standpoint, right, one of them starts to run out of salt so the other one will take the lead. We don't put down salt with the front truck because it typically plows the

second truck plows it all off, so it's usually a follow truck that's doing the application of material. And then on a lot of them down south where the unapproved thoroughfares are a little narrower we

might run a single axle or on some of the super routes which have so many lanes we can't even get them all with two trucks, we'll add the third which is a single axle truck. On our areas there were

divided into 30 residential areas. There are 34 single axle trucks so in some areas they're big enough we have two trucks assigned to them. Six of those are provided by contractor which you like to

see an action item here a little bit on that. On our routes, we average about 58 lane miles per route, and about 25 lane miles per truck in the areas where 51 lane miles per area and about 46 and

eight miles per truck. We have exact numbers from surrounding municipalities, but the last time I looked, we are reasonably higher than most other municipalities around us simply from the size city.

So we also run at least two complaint trucks those are essentially one time pickup trucks for a while. They do not require CDL to run them, those are used when a truck can't get down and residential

street because there's cars parked on both sides or other various kind of things, they will drop a way point, what we call an exception on the map. And then the one time trucks to know where to go

clear that so all that requires 46 route drivers 68 area drivers so that's basically each number of those trucks times 10 and then two shifts. If you have drivers for loaders 10 mechanics you can see

the number so that's a lot of people. If you add all those up you don't even really get close you get close we don't get to the full number of staff that we have dedicated to the program because we

have to account for vacancies, people that get sick, people that have family emergencies those kind of things so they do the math I think that's about 140, 160 people something like that and we have

about 200 dedicated to the program overall soon. So on the left is the very zoomed out image of the snow map and then I zoomed in just to the top kind of show you the legend and how things are broken

out it's really difficult to see on that one. Not here to analyze that just to kind of show you what it looks like for us. In those areas the print is really really tiny but there are sub areas that

are actually called out in there so like area one. There's going to be a one dash one dash zero two for the for the sub area so the map is broken up into areas and then sub areas. If you look at the

map on the left, obviously, areas down south, much larger, you have to encompass a lot more area where there's not as much development. So to get the lane miles to even out right there much bigger

areas but overall, they, they kind of average out to about the same size are southern, I would say south of college generally areas are slightly smaller lane mile wise than the ones north of college,

and then simply because south of the world. It takes a lot longer to file a cul-de-sac, and even with them being smaller the north shop is typically always done because, because of the number of cul-

de-stacks. So a little more on operations and equipment. All of our route and area trucks are equipped with a front plow, a wing plow, a salt spreader that's all controlled by a computerized

controller that we set the application rate. We also have the ability to pre-wet the salt as it's coming out of the spreader to help activate it when things are really cold or really dry or both. And

then the one ton or complaint trucks are front plow only, and then a removable V box salt spreader which you see a lot of contractors like landscaping contractors drive around town, like a salt dog or

something like that just it was pretty commonly. Also last year, took under kind of a pilot program to start trying to use more brine so with that the city purchased a couple of brine application

tanks which are in lieu of the V box it is a tank mounted on a rack that has a spray bar that we can go out and just liquid apply brine for the purposes of pre-treating. We have two tanks that are

about, I think they're about 500 gallons, and then we actually have one that's, that's pretty big I can't know the exact size of it but it's almost, it's got to be at least double the size of a small

lung cell. Just with those we were able to do quite a bit of pre-treating throughout the city at a very short amount of time. Something we will continue to expand. So there's just kind of quick

picture, you can see the front plow the wing plow. I don't have one of the back of the truck to show you the salt spreader, but it's probably kind of pretty silky planetary so as far as our

operational levels of service we have three that we generally refer to a plan A, B, and C. Plan A is for less than four inches which the vast majority of our events are a plan A type event we can just

historically don't get significant little events in this area. So, so plan B is for four to less than eight inches and then plan C is for eight inches or to kind of break those down so plan A's are a

lot of times are treating only so we call in crews we go out and we treat the streets if they weren't able to get ahead of the storm and pre-treat ahead of it, we're treating right kind of as the

storm starts it usually takes us about six hours to complete the whole city. If we get to the point where the accumulation is is nearing two inches or more, we will have to make the calls to whether

or not we want to plow it, to which is kind of the trigger, along with what's it going to do in the next few hours what's going to be in the next few days, right there's a lot of internal analysis

that goes into those decisions because once we decide to drop plows. If the weather doesn't warm up and melted off, we are in for the long haul right it takes it's a long process to plow all of the

city streets it has to be kind of worth the juice has to be worth the squeeze as they say so. And then when we plow it is thoroughfares and collectors first and then residential second in cul-de-sacs

we always push everything to the right. So when we enter a cul-de-sac we actually cross over and we plow them in a clockwise direction so they're going to get pushed to the middle of the cul-de-sac. A

lot of them have islands which is a great place to pile that snow up if they don't there's enough space usually in the middle of them to just pile it up and leave it there. And in most cases for a

plan A event that's what happens it is just left to melt. And at the end of those you're typically going to see streets that are mostly clear or have lungs. For a plan B event, that's obviously

definitely requiring plowing. Once we decide to start plowing at the point that it stops snowing, it will take us 48 to 72 hours to complete the whole city. Again, it's thoroughfares and collectors

first, residential second. Oftentimes we will get the thoroughfare open, maybe not 100% clean and we'll pull them off just to help with the collectors so that we can get the area trucks into the

residential streets faster. And plowing is the same, everything to the right, to the center of the cul-de-sacs, but with a 48 inches, it's most likely we are calling in our final cleanup contractor to

clean the snow out of the center of the cul-de-sacs that we contract through them and we'll be doing some of the same with our crew. So thoroughfares are mostly clear left to right, that is because a

right turn bay is not as critical as a left turn bay. You can drive down the street and make a right turn out of the first lane as they say. The right lane, but you have to have a left turn lane to

make a left turn. So that's kind of how we do it. So your residential streets in a 48-inch event will be passable, but likely snow. By the time we get to residential streets, there has been traffic on

them. Most of our winter weather events kind of lean to a wetter, denser snow that gets packed down and becomes kind of ice and that's very difficult for plows to remove, they just kind of ride on top

of it. We still do the best we can, but you're going to see some snow packed even once the streets are plowed. And at that event, at that level of an event also, we are typically bringing in

additional staff to handle communications like a phone bank and triaging, OP Cares tickets and things like that because we'll start to see a lot of them like that. So there's a good picture of what a

actual plowed street might look like. So some people might look at that and say, well, no one ever came down and you can see along the right edge there that, you know, that street was plowed. It's

just that's kind of the best we can do once that snow gets packed down by traffic. Plant C are the snowmageddon, right, the eight inches or more. And for those, it is kind of emergency access only so

we're going to focus on thoroughfares and collectors, we're going to plow those continuously. And with the hope of basically just maintaining at least one lane through and ideally left turn. And if we

get to a point where we're about eight inches of accumulation and again a lot of all these I always have to see it depends on the storm and what's happening and what's going to happen right we always

have to look at that. But typically at around eight inches of accumulation we know that residents can't get out of their homes at that point so it doesn't do a lot of good to have water thoroughfares

open if no one can get to them. And at that point we will try to go in and do at least a single pass through residential areas which means exactly what it sounds like it's a single pass we're not

taking time to clean up intersections. We're just running, running in and running out as fast as we can to get that done so that people at least have a path to get out. Once the snow has stopped

falling, and we got a pretty good handle on the situation, then a plan C will kind of revert to a plan B attack where we're getting everything cleaned up as best we can and calling in our final clean

up contractor. But with those right turn lanes are typically going to be packed for for quite some time, and residential streets again, so we put this in there just as kind of a reference for if you

hear some of our emergency management lingo when they send out alerts to staff to kind of let us know this their situation, a plan A or plan B level of it will be a level two event and a plan C that's

a level three event which means we're at least going to have management staff involved with our emergency management folks and having kind of regular routine meetings to talk about status where we

are, where things can help that kind of stuff. More global planning things involved. So, things to remember on that all these time frames are from when it stops snow. So, as long as it's knowing we're

still just kind of stuck doing what we can. And we really can't finish cleanup until it stops knowing so again cloud does not equal bare pavement and events followed by extremely low temperatures are

extremely more. It's funny, every time I Google these numbers, I get slightly different numbers so I think there's a lot of variability in them, just in terms of chemical compound and all you know how

much available moisture is in the air and whatnot. So if you look back at last year's presentation they might be slightly different but generally speaking, salt stops working at about 15 degrees

magnesium chloride which is the liquid we used to pre wet our salt, what will become very difficult to apply at five degrees just because it starts to become so thick. And then it will stop working at

minus 10. So, if you remember, two years ago the really bad event we had and even last year. It wasn't a terribly significant event but both of those were followed by just bitter bitter bitter cold

days. And that is very difficult for us to do anything right once once we've kind of completed the initial operations things to kind of remain bad for a while because there's very little that we can

do, because it's just materials don't do the work for us. Another thing to remember is just to encourage your residents to utilize the public map as much as possible, and to utilize OP cares, you

know, we will give quick updates and then close tickets. But that is the easiest way for us to quickly triage things and put in notes for folks to go take a look at things. Is there OP cares instead

of, you know, buying up the phone lines and sending emails all over the place and stuff open cares is the most efficient. Now I'll try to move quickly through some frequently asked questions so number

one is just how much salt, do we have and use. So we store approximately 14,000 tons of salt. We store approximately 25,000 tons at our north shop, and about 7,500 tons in our barn and parts

department 119th and hearty. We don't load out of there but we use that to fill the other farms throughout the season. There's about 2500 27 or something like that at at our south shop, that barn is

being replaced on the design build job is actually currently underway they're designing a replacement for that which will double the capacity of it so there's number over 2500 in the future. One

treatment of the entire city takes about 400 tons. So, why are you treating when the chance of precipitation is so low. That is an issue of safety and time, right, because it takes us six hours to do

the whole city. We can't call folks in at the last minute and say well let's run out and put much salt on the roads because it's about to start raining or snowing or whatever that that that doesn't

work. A lot of times we have to care on the side of caution and get ahead of it, especially if you want that pre treatment to actually be doing good a lot of our winter events come in with a kind of a

drizzly rain the transitions to snow. Sometimes that can be helpful if it's just enough to get the salt wetted and thinned out sometimes it can be hurtful if it's enough to wash it off. But it's, it's

a factor of safety. So, why are you not plowing. So again I talked about this already our trigger generally two inches. We think two inches is manageable for for people to drive over. And once we

decide to start plowing said it takes a long time so we try to avoid that as much as possible and just that you're going to do. And again, other factors are considered. Once again in the next day or

the temperature is going to be like all those things. Why do residential streets not always get clear to bear pavement so I've talked about this. A lot of that is because the work is prioritized we're

not starting on residential streets right they kind of get done last with snow packed. So, yeah, federal affairs and collectors are done first and then residential streets. So, these I kind of

combined them all, because they're all sort of really. So, why did it, why does the truck keep driving past my street. Why are other areas completed before mine. Why is my neighborhood always last

you, you'd be surprised how often we get that question. And why are the trucks just arriving around with their plows up they're not doing anything right so there's several answers to that. We are not

perfect, so we are drivers will miss a street right they might pass one up thinking they're going to come back to it and then forget. However, that's not usually the case most likely it's because we

just haven't gotten there. Our, our software or mapping software works very well or dispatchers can kind of check the work of our drivers and make sure they've dropped breadcrumbs everywhere on the

map and you can have anything in the back. Again, a quick go fee cares ticket and we will go check on it if somebody thinks that we have missed their street trucks have very specific tasks if

everybody dropped their plow at the moment they left the parking lot we would never get anything done right so they can't always just plow, you know, wherever they're going. They have to go where

they're going, where they're assigned, and then start working. So you'll, it is not uncommon to see a truck that's driving down the road that's not doing anything but they are going to where they're

going to do so. As far as the timing of completing things we we run two sequences for our events. It's essentially a counting up through the sub areas and accounting down sub areas is where you might

think of it so. And we alternate that with each event. So that is because we don't want any one residential area to say I'm, I'm always last right. So if we start with area, some area one and actually

that will start with some area whatever the highest one is 10s, for example. That means if you live in some areas five or six, you probably are always last, but you are not done later than folks in

one, when we start in 10 right or then folks in 10 when we started one right so you on average you're about the same time. But you can see it, you can see how that you could have that perception,

we're always talking about there. There was an occasion a few years ago where we realized we had we have kind of partner areas where a driver gets done they're supposed to have a sequence of who they

check where to go help out. And the folks that were driving this area, they always, what we would like is in like sequence one the first driver starts in area. So very one driver that comes to help

would be in several two and they would count up kind of leapfrogging each other and what they were doing instead is the, the other driver will start at the other, other, other end, right and so they

would always lead in the middle, no matter which sequence we were running. And so, it was kind of interesting because we kept telling people know you're never always last, right. And then we found

that will actually they are. But they were still being done at about half the time that everybody else was so it's kind of everything's relative right so a lot of it is just just a perception so. So

here's some examples of things that why you will hear some of those comments so. And this is why a little cartoon drawing it's not perfect it's just for an example right so. So the blue streets are

collectors the big thing black one is your thoroughfare and the grays are residentials. So you might have one resident saying I you know they they miss my cul-de-sac every time and we'll see this come

in and then they'll say well, they, I have to put in a complaint before they will come do it. It's all, it's always that I have to put in a complaint. And then the other ones are, you know, why I

watched you do this whole other area and you haven't even started in line. So, when you zoom out on the map you might see things like for that northern home. They're splitting a sub area, right, and

they are also on a residential street so if we were only out doing thoroughfares and collectors, you might see those trucks drive by that cul-de-sac multiple multiple times. Sometimes folks say well

wouldn't it just be easier if you just did it while you're driving down that thoroughfare. That might be true, except if I were to do it for every one of them you can see it takes a lot more time

right so, so we have to do things very systematically. And we, we avoid dipping in and doing the small things just here and there, we try to do them in work of our program so. For the other one, you

can see they're actually totally different areas so if we started at the opposite end, you know, we might have started at sub area one and area four. But sub area five might be the last sub area in

area three and so they can say well I look across this collector and on the other side all those people have been done hours and hours. Because you're the last sub area that's going to get done for

this particular event so they're working their way towards you to the trucks you see working or not coming to your area they're working away from your just some examples. Six, how do I report damage

saw irrigation mailbox again op cares is the best way. We log saw damage we typically fix it in the spring irrigation damage again we will log it if it's small stuff that we can fix ourselves,

sometimes we will often. We might hire a contractor if there's enough of it or a lot of times he will just tell people get it fixed and send us the for mailboxes we go stand up temporary ones we

basically have kind of just basic home depot mailboxes that's that are on a post in a bucket full of concrete and we'll send it there temporarily are my folks are really good at coming out and

replacing mailboxes we typically do that ourselves within a matter of days once one is down as long as the ground is thought and we can we can do this. Opie cares, or you can call me middles will be

cares is the best way will you remove the window at the end of my driveway so the answer is most likely no. So, everyone gets a win row, and I understand I mean I'm a homeowner to and I don't like

shoveling my driveway and then having the truck come and file the end of it shut but that such is life right so we will investigate if people are adamant that there's is unreasonable. And that does

happen right because just, you know, configuration of a street curves or whatever a driver may get to the point where they had to kind of stop and back up now they both to big pile of snow right in

front of somebody's driveway, we get it, those we will come and clean will typically send a complaint truck over there and just kind of push it off to the side. But we, we kind of make people insist

that that is the case and then we will come and take a look, we will have to send us in Rod's route and they will report back and say yeah we're going to get over here and clean this up so that's it

I've tried to run through that as quick as possible. Great sorry I didn't I didn't go over the map was the one thing I didn't I left out because I had everything else in there but if you have any

specific questions I really want to go. And I think he did answer the question that's the same app so who should expect that. And you might have covered this but last year we talked about, I think it

was over 50% of the drivers were new, they had not. So, everybody's experienced at least one year now unfortunately we still continue to have a lot of turnover. I, I would, it's probably close to

half. Maybe a little less I didn't I haven't actually run. I did about a month ago for Meg but I'm sure it's different now. But yeah we. So that's why we spent so much time as Lorraine alluded to with

with training classroom training and driver training. All the folks that have been doing the driving training, we've been doing a new century airport where they have a lot that we can rent. We set up

a number of courses for them to run there out there for eight hours for the day. The newer drivers will actually review reporting it for 30 this morning, so that we can do what we call the night run,

so that you practice driving areas at night because obviously things look very different in the dark than what the new way. So, so all the newer drivers get that experience and then you'll do the dry

run. And we always encourage all of our folks that are still uncomfortable or whatever, you know, come see us, if you want to these to drive around train. We also, if we have enough redundancy and

staff, we like to let people ride with more experienced drivers, you know, for the first few events if we can afford that if we have enough people to do that. We can start them off slow, so it's

clean. But yeah, internal attrition is always an issue. We always have a lot of new people that are trying to get trained up. Which drivers are public works professionals, but also parts of the rack,

they come from lots of different roles. So we have a lot of new development services, parts of the rack. We have a view from fire, and last question, historically 12, 13 hour shifts, is that still the

norm? Yeah, 12 hour shifts is what we run generally there seven to seven. We try to kind of stagger them because parking is a premium at the shops when everybody's there and so you have to kind of

release one group before you bring the other one in but generally speaking it's a seven to seven operation and can tell where we have things completed enough that we can stop shifting. Other questions

about the newness of folks, how impacted this year, you mentioned vacancies being challenged, how impact of this year are we vacancies? So we have a full roster from all of our spots on the line of

card, if you will, are filled. We would like to be a little deeper if we do have a few, but where do those folks come from? So it's really, it's a debug, right? I mean, again, we try to make the

brand, you know, the newest people, we kind of assign them as backups, right? So they can get some experience driving pump trucks or they can go around with others if they show up to the event, and we

have the numbers, right? So, but it can be anybody that is designated to be. If you have a CDO, if we're getting to that, then it's probably bigger. I've got a truck that has a CD player. And then we

talked about extreme low temperatures, which, yeah, that is a compounding impact. One thing that residents have brought to me in recent years is, it probably has to do with sequencing. And I know

with, I don't think we usually have a lot of two-plow events, but sometimes we'll have multiple events that are, you know, one event one day, one event the next day kind of thing. And to the public is

one event, but to us it's multiple. And so, you know, they'll get plowed in the middle of the night for one event where their street is basically already frozen over because it's five degrees out or

whatever. Whereas the neighborhood next to them got plowed during the daytime, the sun was out all day. And so, you know, that street is looking much closer to their pavement than theirs is. Do we

ever factor in for sort of that second plow, if it's a second event or whatever, with that second plow, trying to prioritize those overnight plows for daytime plow to factor in the sun, the benefit of

the sun, it seems rather significant. We do not. It's kind of a whole other variable to throw into the mix, right? With all the things we're balancing, we pretty much just stick to our sequencing. I

can tell you a lot of that is also just dependent on the neighborhood itself, right? Neighborhoods that have extensive tree canopy, it doesn't matter how much the sun shines, they just, they don't,

they don't see it, right? So on the pavement. We do, you know, for my staff, for the Public Works maintenance folks, they're not off the clock. We have to time shift where it ends. So when residents

put in those OP CARES and they say, hey, you know, I know you're done. Thanks, but our street is still really bad. Can you come back? You know, that's kind of what we do for several days following is

try to hope for a little bit of a warm up spell, and then we'll go hit those streets that have been reported as being really, probably snow packed and try to get them broken loose during the day

shift, so to speak. That's generally how that's saved. Any other questions, we'll move on. Yeah, we'll head to action items. We've got approval of minutes for the June meeting. Yeah, move to approve

for June 24, 2026, Public Works Committee. Got a motion and a second for the discussion. See none. All those in favor say aye. All those opposed, as is unanimously. And now we'll move on to our NSRPG

resolution branch. Thank you. So we're going to be discussing the topic that we started presenting back in June, which is the neighborhood street reconstruction resolution. This is a resolution that

after 15 years of execution we took the time to review it with this committee. We wanted to talk about the program's history the benefits the challenges. We talked about some few pilot efforts that we

had embarked on these past several years, and we discussed with them. We also did discuss some updates that we suggested to the committee, and we also were able to listen to the committee's feedback.

Following that, in August, we came back with a draft red line, where we did our best to address some of the comments that we received we looked at them from the technical financial and operational

feasibility. We wanted to understand how they align, not only with the program but also with other existing policies and resolutions, and we worked our way through the Public Works Committee with that

red line. What we have today following our discussion back in August, would be a final red line to what we discussed back in August, and I wanted to review with you each of the changes based on what

we heard, and then also what we are looking for tonight. I think that all of these are the appropriate revisions that we had discussed would be to look for a motion to approve this resolution, which

would be resolution 5156, and then it would be the new guide for the neighborhood street reconstruction program. So I know that we passed out an exhibit a this exhibit, there's several on your in your

packets but this exhibit compares what we talked about in August, with some of the small revisions we made and I was just going to go through them quickly, and talk about what those were. We will see

that in. We had a minor provision to paragraph five item one, which is titled selection, and we heard comments that addressed, perhaps, how would you consider the different factors that you listed

which is more important, which is not and so what we wanted to clarify was that the primary factors to consider a street selection as part of the program would be that street conditions. And then the

traffic infrastructure, and the neighborhood groupings of that, and any other relevant factors. We then wanted to address the other factors that we talked about which were relatively new, but we felt

gave us a good way to balance when we might have similar circumstances in two neighborhoods, and we refer to those as secondary factors, and those would include neighborhood indicator data locations

and traffic counts to help prioritize those candidates streets. The next provision was to paragraph five item three. We had some discussions on street width and refining the language. There was an

interest by the committee that we were not widening streets but rather, if there was a possibility narrowing streets. And so what we wanted to ensure in our description of street width was while we're

guided by city stand city standard. There may also be reasons why modifying that with better serves the interest of safety, active transportation facilities, and we expanded on being able to talk

about functionality, and we removed a description of neighborhood character because neighborhood character was really something we couldn't really put our finger on what we meant by that, and then

functionality we further clarified that it's really the ability of emergency and solid waste and so removal services to traverse the street functionally, and that the new width shall not exceed the

city standard. So that is the intent and there may be times where it may be in the interest of that neighborhood to narrow the street if possible. And then we also had in paragraph five item five with

our title and this is a whole new section to the resolutions. Initially, our red line talked about the city forester as part of the review team and giving us their expertise in tree protection and

preservation, but because of concerns with workloads of our city foresters we had also already in a recommendation of the forest or for a certified arborist. And there was a suggestion that would

require the sea forest which were proven arborist if used, we did consider that and found that if we mandated approval by a specific staff role for a member of a consultant team that we would be in

conflict with this resolution 5007 which talks about how we pick consultants on a qualifications based selection process. However, we worked with our city foresters to further clarify what a qualified

certified arborist is. So in paragraph five item five a you'll see that we refer to an arborist as an one that holds an international society of our culture, or a Kansas arborist association certified

arborist certificate certification, and that does come with qualifications of its own to be able to take those exams and pass them, and that we also would the arborist is part of the design consultant

team. We would also when they're part of the team we would also invite city foresters to participate in the selection committee or staff committee for the selection of that design consultant, and we

would do that consistent with the procedures that govern that resolution and so we felt that that was a very a great way to be able to get their input on qualifications of one portion of that project

team. And then finally, we had paragraph five item eight, this is also a paragraph that talks about incorporating innovative incorporating and testing innovative ideas, we had talked about aligning

them with strategic goals, and we had two comments related to this paragraph. The first one was asked during that discussion was, what were the guardrails projects. And even if I'm not mistaken that

the example was let's say that our pilot was we didn't want to plant trees anymore. And so we tried to keep in mind that that comment that we heard there was another one that talked about, we only

mentioned strategic goals, but there are also other relevant factors that should be considered we have not only strategic goals we have adopted plans, and we have relevant priorities and initiatives

that are determined by the city manager and department directors. So what we have done is that we have added language to clarify. First, that pilot projects must align with the intent and scope of the

resolution so pilot project will not contradict what the resolutions intent is the second thing would be expanded any ideas that we want to test must align with the city's strategic goals, adopted

plans examples of those would be any current plans that we have whether that's framework Opie and urban forest plan, it may be any future other plans that we have. And then we also would talk about

any relevant priorities and initiatives. So those are the major changes that we have to the last draft review, and we'll pause and take any questions you may have. Yeah, I'm new to this but there was

a, this is on number one selection. It says neighborhood indicator data. What does that mean it's not defined here and I think if somebody pick this up, they might not know what neighborhood indicator

data. Yeah, so neighborhood indicator data, it is an ongoing effort that is completed by the planning and development services department, where they are able to characterize different information

about a given neighbors, but they can look at different areas of the condition of infrastructure they can look at the trees that they may have they can look at demographics, they can look at, is

there, is it rentals or is it property owners that are living there they can look at safety. They're talking about like speed studies and crime reports I mean there's like a holistic view of a

neighborhood, right, that could go into an indicator. Okay, and so this is specific data that is available to staff to be able to anytime a neighborhood that we will get the characteristics of that

neighborhood through some set data that has been collected citywide on each neighborhood, Lorraine correct me if I'm wrong but I think when we were kind of got started on this we were thinking about

the risk watch, my son I write the risk watch program, which I think planning department is maybe evolving so instead of mentioning risk watch my name my name here we thought neighborhood indicator

data, it's a little vague but maybe by design, I do think people would wonder what that is, you've got the possibility of defining it a little bit more but maybe it's better to be a little silent on

exactly what that is so you have that flexibility and you could be able to. So the deal is evolving, and like I said, it is the planning department that is putting those characteristics together and

actually is, it's a wealth of information. So it really allows us once again, these are secondary factors so if you ever have two neighborhoods that have the same neighborhood streets, and they both

can be done within the allocated budget, which one are you going to pick, and this gives us a little bit more information to see to lean on what should be the higher priority only one can be done. If

only one can be done, which is a bit of a tiebreaker, right it's correct. Yes, you know the questions, comments, how's the nutrition. Yeah, just. I'm not going to touch drainage, necessarily enough

just can you just confirm for me specs for really rebuild a neighborhood street which is address drainage and that we don't need additional detail. Yes, it's just so pretty vague that we're going to

build sufficient storm sewers. Assuming that word was falling city standard on drainage. That is correct. And I also want to say that we differentiate that when we go into a neighborhood, a lot of

times those storm sewer systems we're working within the systems that are in the right of way because our work is within the right of way so we are looking at the condition of those inlets, the

condition of those pipes do they need to be replaced in kind. In a neighborhood that has flood control issues. Normally that is done as a separate project. Sometimes we have opportunities and example

being the white with neighborhood which is the 2026 27 neighborhood street reconstruction program where we were able to reconstruct and we were able to leverage funding from the county for flood

control, and we're doing them both at the same time, but the neighborhood street reconstruction is not intended to address flood control that is a separate program. But if the systems are not in good

shape they have outlived their useful life, we will replace them, and we will replace them. According to the city standards. Are there any neighborhoods that don't have very just basic storm sewers

anymore, or have we, we have limited neighborhoods I think you're mostly down south, they're kind of these kind of rural type of states where they have roadside ditches culverts under driveways north

of the you guys have north, we addressed those in our street improvement program that was completed. A few years ago, news to me. All right, I was just thinking that we call out, you know, who can see

and say sophistication to the other paragraphs but not. The other questions or comments. I was talking about the street with think I got all my questions answered last time but I just kind of want to

confirm how many streets do we have that we see the city standard that would sort of be in the crosshairs of a reduction under what that's been doing, not a lot. However, we do have a neighborhood

now, it is part of the 2027 neighborhood street reconstruction program, which is 30 feet from back of curb to back of curb so it includes the width of the curbs about two feet on each side of curb as

the pavement. And so the city standard now is 28 feet. And so, in that case we will take it to the city standard. So that would actually be a reduction. We are also looking at currently because our

city standards we look at under a separate process and looking at street with is one of the many topics that we've looked at, to make sure, are there any updates that we need to do to our city

standards. And so, any changes that happened there would automatically be reflected here, but it's not a lot. In most cases we have gone back to existing up north in many cases, the existing streets

are less than our city standards, so we are not we have not been widening those streets generally on the 31 that's coming up in 27 what's what was that process like I mean it was there, you know,

notification given to residents that this is changing, how did that work, maybe we haven't got there yet. We have worked our way through we jury as part of our design we have three meetings with the

neighbor. So in the first meeting we really talk about the goals of that design and give them preliminary plans and there's where they start to understand what that street section is going to be.

Usually, a neighborhood will hear that it's going to be the same width. In this case that neighborhood learns that we're going to go a little bit narrower. And so we work our way through any questions

they may have on that. If there's any reasons for us to look into that further and see what if any adjustments. And is there any obligation on to conform to driveway. If there is a narrowing of the

streets. No, we take care of all of that, all of our work is within the right of way and we make sure that anything that changes or we tie into the right of way. Yeah, a lot of times we're placing

almost probably at least a third of somebody's driveway and the residents take advantage of that private. On the street with issue or a my correct that we're. If we are narrowing the street, we're not

vacating any right of way and we're still going to maintain our amount of we don't want me to know, we do not want to give up right away that is precious if you want to declare this one. It's precious

this. Well I want to thank city staff and our city attorney's office for working through this because I think we've come to really good product here that outlines what the committee has gone through

and I certainly appreciate sort of the qualification of tree related pilot program in the last few years I think that's been something that's really important to the neighborhoods that have been

impacted by an SRP so far. So yeah I think this has covered what we discussed and if there's not for questions or discussion. Yeah, I think the city council without resolution doctors, five, five,

six, second, motion to second any further discussion. See none all those in favor say I, I, others opposed. Thanks, thanks very much work on. Alright, we'll move on to Josh, Matt, once again, so I've

already covered a lot of this extensively hopefully I can look through this one pretty quickly this is a request to weigh the bid process and get our area contractor, the contract, again, as I just

went over in the presentation. This contractor provides six trucks, it will use financial operations. It's not the trucks like what you see landscaping contractors around town, but while on a salt box

on the back these trucks are identical to the trucks that we run in residential areas that is mainly because they buy our use trucks when we replace ours, so they are the only contractor that we are

aware of that has equipment like that and has an interest to work for the city. They have been our contractor for a number of years. Since our agreement with them expired. We needed to go back and

renegotiate a new agreement and so that is what is before making a this evening so this disagreement will be for for three years, and an amount not to exceed $250,000. I'm going to cover a lot of it

so I can pause there for questions if anybody has any questions. What does the CMH services do when you're not, you know, plowing snow. Great question. He actually owns a boat, sales and repair

company. He's a central doctor, I think. And so, so yeah he winners this so fine and he likes to keep his folks engaged and busy. And so that's, I just didn't know if there was a natural limit to snow

plowing business from some other business, and that's what leads me to my next question is like what, what kind of due diligence or how do you do a market research on, you know, snow plow third

parties. Yeah, so we did one that was kind of similar, a year or so ago when we had to go out for our parking lots and cul-de-sac contractor. We did an RFP for that, we invited a number of contractors

to bid on it, and the amount they did was quite a few less than what we sent the information to and the only one response we got was from the contractors that we already had on board for that work.

So, it is not, again, like I said, it's not an apple to apples comparison because it's not the same type of equipment. But if those folks don't have that equipment, I don't, I don't know. So, it's a

great question, I think. Any other questions? I would just say it's, I feel like it's somewhat typical for us to like have put an RFP out in previous years and then don't get responses and then don't

need to go through that process again when you have identified somebody we'd like to work with. So, that doesn't commit us to never putting it out for RFP again and competing on this, but saves

everybody a lot of effort. Right. Primarily on this in this process what we're looking at is just how much, how much is he trying to get as long as that stays, we can rest assured that that's really

good. Alright, I move to recommend City Council waiver process personnel and eyes control and approval of the agreement with C&H services LLC and an amount not to $250,000 annually for the same. So,

that emotion is second the further discussion, see none all those items, aye, aye, aye, as opposed, that's as unanimously and we will hold on to change orders. So, I'm talking about snow. So, the next

item is request for change order for our 2026 Street Improvement Concrete Project. And it's heavy is the contract here on that project so when we put together plans for our street improvement concrete

project that is the those are the plans that are primarily for curve replacement and sidewalk improvements. We have a set budget that we're trying to get all of that money spent to rehab those that

infrastructure. Much like when you have a CIP project and you're doing your best to estimate the cost of the project. As we put the plans together we're doing our best to estimate how much work can we

get down for the money, right. And in this case, are the bid, actually for this project came in a little bit lower than what we expected. So we were able to add additional scope to the project in

order to spend up to the full budget that we wanted. So that extra money helps to cover some overruns, just because in a rehab and repair replacement type project, you know, we'll go out in the summer

the year before, try to measure up sidewalk that's bad, curve that's bad. We go out the next year and it's actually in a construction so it deteriorates more and as you start tearing out you realize

well I got a difficulty in tying into this point or whatever so kind of tends to creep and grow a little bit in scope. Again, it's probably a good thing because it means we're replacing and improving

more infrastructure. But we do see some overruns for that and then we are also able to add additional work in kind of the next neighborhood that we have on the on the radar for sidewalk improvements.

So let's not show that is what this change is for. Any questions. I move to recommend to the City Council approval of change order one with Kansas Heavy Construction LLC for the 2026 street

improvement project concrete project number three to zero eight in the amount of $409,010. I've got a motion second. I'll just say I appreciate us adding in, Melbourne West that's one, one, it's one

of our neighborhoods that is probably in a meeting or nearly needs reconstruction so those curves and sidewalks have not had the intention in a while, because it's been through I think several cycles

of chick sale at this point, which doesn't trigger that so I appreciate us paying attention to those neighborhoods as they wait for wait reconstruction. I should ask the question during the question

phase but see you have that layer here I thought they'd already got some sorry you do an additional work. Right so those are the, the neighborhoods that were originally part of the scope of the

project. I'm just kind of listening, relisting those for everyone's information, you know, probably we're small ones and things and some of those. Okay, sorry. That's fine. Any further discussion. See

none all those in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed passes unions. Thank you very much. All right, we've got Becky for a couple items. Good evening chair and the members of the committee. The first

item I bring tonight is an author's meant to amend the five years CIP program outside of the normal CIP process. This is for the project for 82nd Street realignment at Metcalfe. The project will

realign Marty with 82nd Street at Metcalf Avenue intersection, and this, and we're asking to increase the budget by 355,000 to a total project budget cost of $4,670,000 to help cover construction

costs and consultant construction observation services, and I will get into more details on the construction costs and project costs in the next item. Any other questions. Just a comment that I

appreciate being able to change the CIP outside of our normal process, because sometimes we hear that that's not precedent it or possible so it is possible. If we approve it. Ready for a motion. I

move to recommend City Council amendment of the 2027-2315 year financial plan capital improvements program and maintenance program to authorize an increase in project funding for 82nd Street

realignment project, project number ST 2923 to $4,670,000 from $4,315,000. Got a motion second, I will go off of what Drew just said, and relate this back to our NSRP resolution earlier so you might,

those of us on the committee might remember we had a discussion about the budget aspect of the pilot projects within the NSRP and we decided we wanted to maintain that language that fit within the

budget of the project with the understanding that this very process of changing the CIP in order to factor in a pilot project tied to an NSRP project could be done. It took a year or two to factor

that into the project. We really want to do the pilot project, but it took us, I guess, good comment on how you know how this could be not just like pilot projects but you know we see scopes change on

projects sometimes we get further along and we say oh there's a subdivision that needs an access point that's going to cost $100,000 so we need to change order that in so I do think that as we move

forward on NSRP budgets need to change to accommodate pilot projects or changes in scope that are valuable that we value that we should be open to those. So, yeah, any further discussions, seen all

those in favor say aye. All those opposed. The next item is for the bid tab for the 82nd Street realignment project. The city went out for bids on this project, staff opened the bids on August 18, and

we had six betters. The bids were evaluated. Construction was the apparent lowest and best responsive better work over the engineers estimate by 13% and for municipal code. Anytime it exceeds the

engineers estimate by more than 7%, then we have to provide an explanation. We did review the bids and do feel that this is still the lowest cost that we will get for this project, due to the amount

of bidders we got and the tight spacing of the bids there wasn't a big gap between the low and the high bid. And under investigation of the individual bid items, most of the cost difference was in the

removal of existing structures and earthwork, which was roughly 173%, $173,000 of the engineers as over the engineers estimate. So that made sense for us on the size of a project that that could be

the discrepancy and we still feel that this is the lowest bid that we would get for this job. And we've done work with realm construction before or how to familiar. Yeah, they have not been a prime on

one of our projects but they have worked on several of our projects as a subcontractor, and they're very familiar with KDAW projects as well. Okay, so we feel confident they can do this job well. Any

other questions. Yeah, just, you're going to start in early 2027. This is a big important project intersects Metcalf so maybe walk us through kind of the timing. Yes, they're planning on starting

after the first of the year and they will be done by, I think the end of August is August or September is the timeline. We are coordinating this project and the traffic control with other projects

that are in the area on the Metcalf pedestrian trail will be happening next year as well. So we're working through making sure that that's as seamless as possible, and we will maintain traffic through

Metcalf while we're doing this it'll be one half at a time. Any other questions, like promotion, I moved recommend to the Council approval of the award of bid for the 82nd Street realignment project

project number st 2923 to realm construction Inc in the amount of $1,908,577 and 70 cents. Okay, that's actually made further discussion. See none all those in favor say aye. Aye. For Metcalf

pedestrian trail. The supplemental agreements indicates the responsibilities between or the agreement itself indicates the responsibilities of the city and K dot, when we have federal funds on a

project. We were originally awarded $1,350,000 of transportation on alternative funding and additional funds became available so the project is getting an additional $50,000. In a project. And so this

is just the agreement to allow us to accept any questions on this move to recommend Council approval of agreement number 67426 supplemental agreement number one to city station agreement number 762 24

with the Kansas Department of Transportation and the Ministry of Transportation for city project number st 2353 for federal funding in the amount of $1,400,000 second, I'll just throw out there, my

encouragement that we have a at this point a ribbon cutting for the pedestrian trail because I think we've already had a round from a groundbreaking and a ribbon cutting the seven budget. Now, any

further discussion just that I think the standing policy of this committee should be no questions when people are trying to give us more money for a good cost. Any further discussion. See none all

those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed. Okay, this is another supplemental agreement for a city state agreements. This one is for the city place linkage trail on this trail is going to

construct an existing gap in the bike hike trail between corporate woods, and west of Mastin to the Valleybrook Park west of Neiman, and the city was originally awarded $1 million in transportation

alternative federal funding, and this would add an additional 200,000 in federal funds, and again this agreement establishes responsibilities for the city. Any questions from mission recommend City

Council approval of agreement number 67526 supplemental agreement number one to the city state agreement number 46523 with Kansas Department of Transportation Secretary of Transportation and City

Project number PR 2959 for federal funding in the amount of $1 million, $200,000 second, I'll have the same comment on this I think we should do groundbreaking and a ribbon cutting. So, that's that

encouragement on to staff. Any further discussion invite. Yeah, sure, numbers paying for this year. Any other discussion. See not all those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed. All right, I'm 12.

This is a supplemental agreement with tracks design group for additional services on the 77th and Metcalf traffic signal project. Next is, we'll be adding a signal at 77th and Metcalf along with left

turn lanes, north and southbound on Metcalf Avenue, and the project schedule is finishing up design. Next year, with ease with easement acquisition is ongoing right now and we will begin construction

and 2027, the supplemental. This is supplemental number two number one was approved by the Public Works director in June of 2025, or the amount of $37,021. Some additional plan submittals and some

types of design structures that needed to be added. This supplemental also expands the project scope to support necessary design changes that are anticipated from ongoing negotiations with the

individual project properties in the area. Any questions on this one. I moved to recommend City Council approval of the supplemental agreement with track design group LLC to provide engineering

services for 77th and Metcalf traffic signal project number St. 953 and the amount of $150,000 hundred and seven dollars for a total amount not to exceed 581,266 hours and 15 cents. The schedule is

not as nailed down on this one as we're still working through negotiations on everything. There is some impacts to some properties that will need to be finalized before we can start even utility

relocations. So we are still working through acquisition. It is 2027 federal funds. So the goal would be to start by the fall of 2027. Any other discussion. See none all those in favor say aye. Aye.

Opposed. Thanks a lot, thank you. And we'll move to Brian for a couple items. I bring to you two items back to back they're very closely tied together, and that is the recurring item of the traffic

engineering on call. This shows up every three years where we do a request for qualifications for traffic engineering firms to provide services for us. Those services could range from anything to

signal designs, streetlights, pavement marking signing, plan review, traffic impact studies, simulation, traffic simulation models, macro or micro. And so what this on call allows us to do is over

that period of three years, hire them for individual task orders, based on their capabilities and who is using. Who is using them because the selection of the RFQ is done by a staff committee not only

from Public Works is traffic services group, but also planning and development services engineering services group. We're looking for a little bit different things in here they that we use them for

different items. The actual agreements are for a two plus one year so two year and guaranteed one year where if it's, we all are still happy with each other we'll just keep using them. Each of the

firms would be authorized up to $500,000 per firm per year, the funding to actually pay for those projects would come from other items such as the MIP the capital improvements program or operating

budget depending on the size of the actual activity. The six firms that were selected were Alfred Binnish, Burns & McDonald, H&TV, JEO, Merge Midwest, and Olson. And with that, I would take any

comments. The first item again is the selection of them. The second item will be the approval of the contracts. So can you kind of walk me through an example, because I'm seeing each of these, you

know, they provide their table of, you know, an associate billable rate is this if you're using an assistant, it's this but of course they're each different companies with different categories but can

you maybe kind of give an example of the project that how you'd agree a few of them, you know, the expected billable hours are the scope for sure. A standalone traffic signal replacement would be a

great example, and those we generally expect to see, you know, maybe 80 to $100,000 could be a little bit less could be a little bit more in general. It's very complicated larger intersections got

pipelines overhead power, it's probably going to be more just we're sliding around a number of things if it's a simpler smaller intersection. It's generally on the lower end so we're aware of, because

we have multiple signal projects every year just kind of where that expected overall rate is might fall. One thing we do notice is, you know, a consultant may choose to use more technician hours that

is, or a different consultant may choose to use a more experienced engineer that probably takes less time so it's the overall package of what we're getting when we negotiate with them that we're

looking at. So I'm just trying to rotate through these folks or do we have preferences depending on what projects, it depends on the project, I will say we rotate a little bit through them just

because if we give all of our projects to one of them there. It's harder to say well we want you to work on that one that's your only priority, whereas if we spread it out a little bit. We don't care

about all of the other people they're working for as much. We want them to prioritize the Overland Park project we also know that different firms have different strengths. And so we will give

different firms different types of projects depending on what we know their strengths. And then, maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, but I believe these have a not to exceed amount on the contracts do

they also have a minimum. Many years ago I want to say six years ago they didn't have a minimum in there we have removed that so it's not a guaranteed contract on their end at all. Any other

questions, if you can motion, I move to recommend to the city council approval selection of health prevention company firms McDonald engineering company Inc. HNTV Corporation JEO consulting group Inc.

Merge Midwest engineering LLC and Olson Inc. for on demand consulting engineering service traffic engineering projects and transportation planning. Motion second any further discussion. See none all

those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay, and all those abstaining say aye, aye, moving that Council and Patricia stating that passes 501. We'll move on item 14 item 14 is the agreement

with five of the six firms we are, we now have the paperwork for the sixth one that would be also and then so I will be back following public works committee to get the agreement approved with them

but otherwise item 16 is the actual agreements with each of the firms. Any questions on this. I move to recommend to the city council approval, the agreement with outward vanishing company burns the

McDonald engineering Inc. HNTV Corporation, JEO consulting group Inc. And merge Midwest engineering LLC for on demand consulting engineering services, traffic engineering projects and transportation

planning, then amount not to exceed $500,000 per firm per year. Motion to second me further discussion. See none all those in favor say aye. All right, all those opposed same sign in all those

abstaining. Council nutrition is abstaining, but it's approved 501. Thanks a lot Brian and head to the final item, a big tab that hopefully comes with some props. Sure. Okay, that's one prop. In all

of our traffic signals. So, there's just a small little clusters of LEDs in our traffic signals and 12 inches 12 inches 12 inches. So that's the little light bulb once when I first started here we had

incandescent light bulbs and we were changing them all the time. These will last about 10 years plus. So I'll try to be quick since I'm the last time that is behind the green. Yes, this is behind the

green yellow. Yes, that whole I should say how do you make an arrow that is a slightly different. I would say these run about 14 watts, compared to the 150 watts that we used to be so that doing our

parts. The intersections run about 300 watts for the whole intersection. Okay, this is He took it down this night. I don't have that off the top. You're catching us off guard a little bit. So I am

wondering. So what's it cost us. Do you know what it costs us to run from electricity, say, a traffic light for your side. I can say on most of our intersections we're below. There's like a rep we pay

a commercial rate and our in our power consumption is less than the minimum. So we play just, we just play the minimum amount that's in charge for most of us. Probably wasn't didn't use to know. Yes.

All right, thank you very much. Would you like to present on sure. You're welcome to do it every so far. I bring to you tonight. We've been opening that we had for 99 and all Avenue. We had three

bidders on the project and capital electric was our loaded $513,700. This will reconsider. This is for night and all will reconstruct the sidewalk ramps will replace all of the polls and the mast arms

and the heads will bring the sidewalk ramps up to pro egg or the public right of way accessible guidelines. We'll do restoration of all the neighborhoods. We've worked very closely with all the

neighbors at this these projects are a little different because they're older signals and the ramps are much smaller we've had to go into people's yards more than we had in the past. But we worked

very carefully with them to make sure that they were okay with the project and we're storing landscaping is needed. I would say you will notice on the bit that the little bit was significantly lower

than all the rest. I believe that's because the last bit I brought to you, capital electric lost that one, and they were hungry and they wanted to do the work. So you'll see, we'll have a couple more

bits to bring to you next month, and you'll see capital and CL as they kind of go back and forth on those projects on site on the last project we bid. CLS was the low bidder and capital was the high

bidder so they just wanted to probably come down and they were hungry and wanted to keep the folks going. This TLS group one that we've seen on these groups before. We have their slightly reorganized

group, they have been wildcat concrete and they've been purchased by this other this new firm of TLS they merged with them. And I mean the black and McDonald is not too far off from the engineers

estimate but just wondered if you have any idea, sort of where we're seeing the savings between the engineers estimate. Some of it, we had seen an increase in prices. So our engineers estimate had

kind of floated up with that. But as these capital electric and these firms have been more aggressive. Prices have kind of come back to probably where we would have expected them, I guess we were, we

were trying to be careful and I think the markets leveled out a little bit. And if I may add, we used to do one traffic signal once every two or three years. Now we're putting out two to three a year

at minimum so I think that their contractors are starting to see that there is work here. And so we're, we're hoping that that is what they're seeing us do and that that that may, we hope continue to

attract them to come in a bid. And I would say the capital electric has done a lot of work for us, they just completed two signals for us, we're in the process of completing idiot the mecca, as well

as called you know, do a fine job. Any questions, recommend City Council approval of award a bid for the installation of the traffic signal and 99th Street and all Avenue project number m 23216

decafel electric line builders, the amount of $513,700. I'm going to open the motion a second. I'll just say we welcome your props we welcome your answer very lessons. There were two was a great

intersection. There's got to be something creative you do for a turn it on. I don't agree. Might be. Yeah, I need a traffic often. Anyway, any further discussion. See now all those in favor say aye,

aye. - Honestly, thanks everybody, it's me, it's Jeremy.