2026-09-24 - Office of Community Safety

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  • A community meeting at the Hicks Anderson Community Center explaining how the city and its partners respond in the first seven days after serious violence, and taking public questions. It was opened by Gregory Lloyd Morris, special assistant to the mayor for community engagement, with a moment of silence and a prayer from Bishop George Gibson.
  • Mayor John Carney described a "whole city" approach to violence that goes beyond policing, citing housing on the East Side, a planned 30 affordable townhouses in Southbridge, and group violence intervention. He said recent incidents would not be discussed in detail because they remain under investigation.
  • Bishop Gibson spoke on the five-prong Wilmington United approach, linking safety to housing, services for people experiencing homelessness, investment in Black-owned businesses, and opportunities for young people.
  • Police Chief Wilfredo Campos said the department holds weekly command staff meetings, sends community engagement officers to neighborhood meetings, and shares information with the mayor's office and City Council.
  • John Cook, director of community safety, said he is writing the procedures for a new Office of Violence Prevention. He cited an analysis that the top shooters are now aged 13 to 16 and use long guns.
  • Javar Simpson, interim director of Group Violence Intervention, described the program as focused on those most likely to shoot or be shot, with employment, education, mental health and anti-retaliation outreach. He said the trend has been downward, with a recent uptick.
  • Corey Priest of the Attorney General's office urged agencies to stop working in silos. Licensing and Inspection Commissioner Gabriel Pabone described vacant and neglected property enforcement as a safety strategy.
  • Wilmington Housing Authority director Ray Fitzgerald said the authority runs more than 2,000 public housing units, has helped 145 residents buy homes with no foreclosures, and has a $5 million federal lead grant combined with local hiring.
  • Parks and Recreation director Dr. Melody Phillips said the department hired 245 youth last summer, runs the Next Level youth career programs, and has 60 free after-school spots at the Hicks Anderson center.
  • During the program, a father alleged that no city representative had contacted his family in the roughly three months since his son was shot; Director Cook apologized to him. Council President Ernest "Trippi" Congo II said the government must acknowledge community anger and disappointment over a police shooting, and said the violence is not the police department's fault.
  • Public comment: speakers alleged distrust of police and called for accountability, with a panelist citing the complaint process and a Police Accountability Board that meets monthly. A youth nonprofit founder asked for a published directory of youth services and a panelist replied, "Publish a directory. We'll do that." Others asked for street outreach funding, truancy and literacy support, and recruitment of inner-city residents to the fire and police departments. Council Member McCoy said she chairs the Public Safety Committee and would work on ordinances.
  • Chief Campos said recent shootings have involved school conflicts, retaliation and social media feuds, and urged parents to monitor social media.

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00:06and welcome to the Hicks Anderson

00:08Community Center. My name is Gregory

00:10Lloyd Morris and I'm special assistant

00:12to the mayor for community engagement.

00:16Thank you to our residents, community

00:17partners, city leaders, and agency

00:20representatives for being here tonight.

00:23We're here because recent violence has

00:26caused loss, fear, and serious concern

00:30across Wilmington.

00:32Residents deserve to know how the city

00:34and its partners respond when violence

00:37affects a neighborhood, who is

00:39responsible for each part of that

00:41response, and how the community will

00:43receive timely information. Tonight

00:47brings public safety, outreach, youth

00:50and family services, housing, planning,

00:53economic development, and community

00:56leadership into one room. We will

00:59explain the first seven days of the

01:01coordinated response, listen to

01:04community concerns, and strengthen commu

01:07communication and accountability across

01:10the fiveprong approach.

01:14Before we continue, I ask everyone if

01:17able to stand

01:20and join us in a moment of silence for

01:22those lives that have been lost, those

01:26who have been shot and injured, and the

01:28families and communities carrying the

01:30pain of these acts of violence.

01:48Thank you. You may be seated.

01:56I'd like to now bring up

01:59as he leads the house in prayer, also

02:02welcoming the leader of our faith

02:04community,

02:06Bishop George Gibson.

02:16Let us pray.

02:19Hon, in you we live, we move and have

02:22our being

02:24for this time that we come together to

02:28talk about solutions and

02:31opportunities of peace and unity.

02:35We ask your blessing upon us.

02:38Thank you for all our leaders who have

02:41come out tonight

02:43and those who have the mind to unify

02:48hearts and spirits that we will bring

02:51about resolve and peace to our city.

02:54Bless us now in our deliberation. Bless

02:56us now in our time of strategy.

03:00Keep us in the hollow of your hand. We

03:02commend the city into your hand because

03:06no other hand is as secure as thine.

03:09Bless us now as we talk and as we think

03:13through how we can have a better

03:16Wilmington, a better Delaware

03:19and a better community connected and

03:23cooperative. We thank you now in Jesus

03:26name. All the people said amen.

03:28>> Amen.

03:32Thank you, Bishop. [sighs]

03:36We are honored to have Mayor John Carney

03:38with us tonight. As mayor, he leads the

03:41city administration and help sets

03:44Wilmington's priorities for public

03:46safety, housing, neighborhood services,

03:48and economic opportunity. Mayor Carney,

03:51thank you for joining our residents and

03:53partners tonight here at Hicks Anderson

03:55this evening. Please welcome Mayor John

03:58Carney.

04:06I'm going to see if this works.

04:09I've been in here before where it works

04:11and times where it doesn't work so well.

04:13I'm not going to take a lot of your

04:14time, but I just want to say a few words

04:17to set the table. First of all, it warms

04:21my heart to see so many familiar faces,

04:24individuals that have been working to

04:27stem the tide of violence here in our

04:29city for many, many years. This has been

04:32a huge priority for me going back to my

04:36days as Lieutenant Governor when then

04:38Mayor Baker asked if I would chair the

04:41the Hope Commission, the Wilmington Hope

04:42Commission, and we talked about, I'm

04:44sure, a lot of the things that we're

04:46going to talk about tonight.

04:49I get fairly regular briefings

04:52from our police department, from our

04:54chief and his staff, and honestly, it

04:57breaks my heart when I think of the

04:59young people mostly that are involved

05:02with the gun violence here in our city,

05:03in particular neighborhoods in

05:05particular.

05:06And so, one of the priorities that I've

05:08had for a long time, going back to my

05:10days as lieutenant [snorts] governor, is

05:12to address those conditions here in our

05:15city that we can.

05:17And so as I look at my term as governor

05:20and the investments that we've made,

05:21particularly on the east side, I must

05:22say, working with then Mayor Pziki, in

05:26housing, in a brand new school, in a new

05:30people's settlement that will that will

05:32cut ribbon on tomorrow and the youth

05:35development center, thinking about the

05:37northeast with that unbelievable

05:40development up there and the investments

05:43that we've also made in what we call

05:45group violence intervention.

05:47group violence intervention. For many,

05:50many years, the violence in our city and

05:53cities like ours and much larger cities

05:56has been the result of groups and gangs

05:58that fight with one another.

06:01And so I latched on to a theory from a

06:06professor by the name of Kennedy who

06:09came up with an approach to that which

06:11he called group violent intervention.

06:14And we hired a guy named John Cook. And

06:17most of who you'll hear from tonight

06:19will be John because we just hired him

06:23to be our director of community safety.

06:26And so John's going to bring to the

06:28conversation tonight his experience with

06:30respect to group violence. And we've

06:33seen some decline, although recently an

06:35uptick in in group violence here in the

06:37city. But over the last couple years

06:40since that program has been working, and

06:44by the way, it's it's not really a law

06:47enforcement approach necessarily.

06:50I don't want to get in over my head

06:52here, but it's more a kind of social

06:56service outreach to those that are

06:58involved in these groups and gangs.

07:01We have a very good law enforcement

07:05approach to it, and you'll hear about

07:07that tonight. You're not going to hear

07:08some specifics about the individual

07:11occurrences that we've had recently

07:14because they're still under

07:15investigation and it could compromise

07:18that. But you're going to hear we have,

07:19by the way, the best chief and team in

07:22any police department that I've

07:24encountered. Chief Campos is first rate

07:28and his team the same. But guess what?

07:32You can't do it all with a law

07:33enforcement approach. That's an

07:35important part of it. We'll talk a

07:38little bit about that. But also has to

07:40be building up the whole community,

07:43strengthening and stabilizing the whole

07:45community. And that's why our approach

07:48to this issue is uh what we call in

07:51other cities have called the whole city

07:53approach which includes LNI. It includes

07:57planning, includes housing. drive around

08:00the east side if you haven't recently

08:02see all the new housing that mostly was

08:04a result of Mayor Mike's investments of

08:07federal money that came into the city.

08:09Same thing in the northeast as I said

08:11coming soon 30 town houses at an

08:14affordable level in South Bridge. And we

08:17got to keep doing that kind of work as

08:20we stem the tide for some of these young

08:22folks who are too ready to pick up a gun

08:25and use it on somebody else.

08:29I'm here because I believe that as a

08:32city, we can and will work together. I

08:35hope everybody brings that same attitude

08:38to the room tonight because the only way

08:41we're going to be successful in stemming

08:43this violence is if we work together. I

08:47see that council president has come. I

08:49know their council members behind me. I

08:50want to thank them for their partnership

08:52and working together. And with that, I'm

08:55turn it back over to Greg. Thank you all

08:58for coming. Thank you all for coming.

09:05Appreciate it.

09:07Thank you, Mayor. We appreciate you.

09:12To help ground tonight's gathering in

09:14faith, responsibility, and shared

09:17partnership, it is my honor to welcome

09:20back

09:22Bishop Gibson, IMAC director and bishop

09:25for our opening talk on faith and

09:28leadership. Bishop Gibson, thank you for

09:31helping us begin this evening with

09:33reflection and purpose. Ladies and

09:34gentlemen, once again, Bishop George

09:36Gibson.

09:43Good evening to you all, mayor and and

09:47our chief and to all our executives. We

09:51appreciate your presence.

09:54I I want to talk

09:57about from problems to possibilities.

10:03It is honor to stand with you tonight as

10:06we come together and I thank John for

10:09this invitation

10:11under one common cause

10:14building safer,

10:16stronger,

10:18healthier neighborhoods for our families

10:21and our children.

10:24I could stand here tonight and talk

10:26about everything that has happened in

10:29our communities.

10:31I could talk about violence.

10:34I could talk about poverty.

10:37I could talk about families struggling,

10:39businesses closing,

10:42or young people searching for direction.

10:48But we already know the problems.

10:52Tonight I want to talk about the

10:54solutions

10:57because identifying the problem may

11:00create awareness

11:03but building a solution creates change.

11:09The message that brought us together

11:12reminds us that

11:14motivation alone is not enough.

11:19We need a strategy for

11:22solutions.

11:25And that is what I appreciate

11:27about Wilmington United.

11:32The fiveprong approach recognizes

11:36something important.

11:38We cannot address violence without

11:41addressing the conditions surrounding

11:44our families.

11:47Community safety matters,

11:52but so does housing,

11:55and so does neighborhood stability.

12:00So does helping individuals experience

12:03homelessness,

12:05receiving the services and supports they

12:08need.

12:09So does investing in blackowned

12:11businesses, local inter local

12:15entrepreneurs, and our commercial

12:18corridors so that economic opportunities

12:21exist right here in our neighborhoods.

12:26Perhaps most importantly,

12:28so does investing in our young people

12:32before they reach a point of crisis.

12:35Our children need more than someone

12:39telling them what not to do.

12:43They need someone showing them what is

12:46possible.

12:48They need mentors. They need educators.

12:51They need opportunities. They need safe

12:53spaces.

12:56They need adults who know their names,

12:59recognize their gifts, hold them

13:02accountable,

13:03and refuse to give up on them.

13:07And our families need to know that they

13:11are not expected to do this work alone.

13:17The message before us says that we must

13:19rebuild strong and resilient

13:21neighborhoods one family at a time.

13:28That is the work.

13:31We strengthen the family.

13:33We support the neighborhood.

13:36We invest in blackowned businesses.

13:40We create opportunities for young

13:42people. and we work together not in

13:45silos

13:47but as one Wilmington.

13:50So when we leave here tonight, let us

13:52not simply ask what is the city going to

13:56do,

13:58but let us ask what can I do?

14:02What can my church do?

14:05What can my business do?

14:08What can our schools do? What can our

14:12community organizations do?

14:16And most importantly, what can we

14:18accomplish when we do it together?

14:22Our neighborhoods are not hopeless.

14:27They are full of hope.

14:29Our young people are not problems to be

14:32solved.

14:33They are potential awaiting to be

14:37developed. Our communities are not

14:40defined by our challenges. They will be

14:43defined by what we choose to build next.

14:48So, Wilmington, let us build.

14:51Let us restore. Let us reconnect. Let us

14:54invest.

14:56And let us create neighborhoods where

14:58our children can grow up not simply

15:02surviving, but dreaming, achieving,

15:05leading, and thriving.

15:08So to you tonight, heads up,

15:12hearts up, guns down,

15:16and together Wilmington, let us rise.

15:20I still believe as a preacher, prophet

15:22of God, that a saved community is a safe

15:27community.

15:34Thank you, Bishop

15:37>> [clears throat]

15:41>> Chief Wilfredo Campos leads the

15:43Wilmington Police Department.

15:46His team is responsible for public

15:48safety investigations,

15:51verified incident information,

15:54intelligence, patrol, deployment, and

15:56enforcement.

15:58Chief Campos, thank you for your

16:00leadership and for being here tonight.

16:01Ladies and gentlemen, WPD Chief Wilfredo

16:04Campos.

16:12Good evening.

16:15Thank you all for having me here

16:17tonight. Just have a a few comments.

16:20So, I've been your police chief for the

16:23last almost roughly four years, but I've

16:26been a part of this police department

16:28for 30 years. And I seen the es and

16:30flows of of violence in the early 2000s,

16:34late 90s, in the mid uh middle of the

16:38last decade, and then most recently my

16:41last four years police chief. What I do

16:43know is that we have an incredible,

16:46incredible police department full of

16:48dedicated police officers. Some of which

16:50are here today, some of my command staff

16:53and some police officers in the back as

16:55well as part of our community engagement

16:56unit.

16:59But what I do know as well is that we

17:00have incredible partners.

17:03I have an incredible support system with

17:06the mayor, the chief of staff, a deputy

17:09chief of staff, city council, city

17:12council president.

17:14Whenever we have an incident in the city

17:16of Wilmington, a shooting, a homicide,

17:21one of the first things I do is I I get

17:23a phone call

17:25in the middle of the night, in the

17:26morning, whenever it happens, and I get

17:28the information, and we ask the

17:30questions of

17:32how did this happen, why did it happen,

17:35who did it, and how can we hold someone

17:38accountable?

17:40And then after that,

17:43that same information is relayed to the

17:46mayors and the administration as well.

17:49Some of that information is shared with

17:52city council as well.

17:55And that's all to make sure that we're

17:57on the same page.

17:59Now, we know that we've made progress in

18:01this city,

18:03but we continue to have bumps in the

18:05road. We continue to have those issues.

18:10But we're going to continue to fight.

18:12We're going to continue to do our job.

18:15We're going to continue to make this

18:17city as safe as we can.

18:22As a chief, as the chief of this police

18:24department, every week I have four

18:27meetings with my command staff and we

18:31talk about everything that happened over

18:32the weekend. We talk about everything

18:34that happened during the week and

18:36everything that happened that's going to

18:37come up on the weekend to make sure that

18:39we're prepared.

18:41But that's not enough. That's why we

18:44send our community engagement officers

18:45out to the community meetings to make

18:47sure that we understand and that we hear

18:49directly from the residents of what is

18:52happening in each certain neighborhood

18:54of our city because we know every

18:55neighborhood is different.

18:59We want to make sure that we work with

19:00all of you to continue to drive crime

19:04down in this city and make it as safe as

19:07we can. Now, I know that's an ongoing

19:11struggle. There's frustrations, but I

19:14can tell you this,

19:16as your chief,

19:18my commitment is unwavering. I know that

19:22behind every shooting, behind every

19:24homicide, there's a family. there's

19:26someone who's grieving

19:28and I feel that. I understand that.

19:35>> So, I can make you this promise that

19:36we're going to continue to do that.

19:38We're going to continue to do our job

19:39and we're going to continue to focus on

19:41those individuals who are causing the

19:43most issues.

19:51talking

20:14the change.

20:18Sorry.

20:30So, as I said, we're going to continue

20:32to do our job.

20:34We're going to continue to make this

20:35city as safe as possible. That is my

20:37commitment to you and that is my

20:39promise. Thank you.

20:59Thank you, Chief.

21:01>> Appreciate you.

21:10Director John Cook coordinates the

21:12city's community safety response. He

21:15brings agencies, partners together,

21:19maintains the action plan and helps

21:21ensure that responsibilities are clear

21:24during the first seven days following

21:26serious violence. Ladies and gentlemen,

21:28our director of community safety, Mr.

21:30John Cook.

21:42I am sorry.

22:00doing.

22:02>> This is the first time since my son been

22:05shot. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I GET TO

22:06SEE THE WHOLE PODIUM.

22:10>> The whole podium, MAN. IT'S BEEN 92

22:12DAYS. NOT ONE PART, NOT ONE PERSON COME

22:15TO MY SON AND MY SON'S MOM AND COME

22:18KNOCK ON THE DOOR AND BE LIKE

22:19TRANSPARENT. WHERE IS HE?

22:22>> Who's the officer?

22:24>> I'm scared.

22:25>> Yo, I am so scared. Y'all won't get his

22:28bold name up. BUT HERE IT IS. I'M

22:31WALKING THE STREETS.

22:33My son name is Blaster.

22:36My name is Blaster.

22:38>> WHY HIS NAME AIN'T BEING BLASTER?

22:41WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? IF I DID SOMETHING,

22:44MY NAME WOULD BE ALL OVER THE STREETS.

22:46OH, EVERYBODY NOW. EVERYBODY KNOW. THE

22:50ONE THING I DO, ONE THING I DO,

22:52EVERYBODY NOW. GOD KNOW. [screaming]

22:53Y'ALL DON'T KICK MY DOOR.

22:57>> 48 hours.

22:59>> It's been 70 IT'S BEEN 82 80 87 DAYS.

23:03YOU KNOW [screaming] HOW I SLEEP? I

23:05don't

23:07I don't sleep. DO YOU KNOW WHY IT'S NO

23:10TRANSPARENCY?

23:12MAYBE IF I HAD A

23:14TRANSPARENCY AND I'LL BE OKAY. I CAN

23:16SLEEP. ALL Y'ALL EAT DONUTS.

23:20THAT'S WHEN I EAT NOTHING.

23:24I LOST 30 LBS. I'M NOT HEALTHY.

23:32My manure is My manure is brown. YOU

23:35KNOW WHAT THAT MEAN?

23:38I ain't living right.

24:01Ladies and gentlemen,

24:05what we are experiencing

24:07is a father

24:10that is hurting.

24:13Come on.

24:16[applause]

24:18And I am not here to defend.

24:22I am here to ensure

24:26that every child that walked in this

24:28street has the ability to walk in peace.

24:33[applause]

24:37My first client

24:40as a director for GVI

24:42was someone that I loved,

24:45someone that I respected,

24:47and someone that I honored. His name was

24:51Kurt Flowers.

24:53His brother name was Kindell.

24:56I remember when I met him. I walked him

25:01to Elamir.

25:03We spoke. We hugged and I loved him.

25:09And he told me, he said

25:14that I couldn't repay you,

25:17but you took the moment to love me.

25:23My name is John Cook and I'm the

25:24community safety director

25:28and I chose this position in a very

25:30peculiar time.

25:33In fact, I don't even know how I got

25:34here. And some of my Muslim friends said

25:39that it was just a moment that God

25:41appointed you for a time as this.

25:47Brother, I want to say to you

25:49from the bottom of my spirit that I'm

25:52sorry.

25:59[applause]

26:02>> Don't clap. Y'ALL DON'T DESERVE THIS.

26:06You don't deserve this. This is real.

26:09THIS IS WHAT I WANTED.

26:12A little closure.

26:25Stop and running from me, man. Why? I'm

26:28a man just like y'all. You white shirts.

26:31I'm Excuse me. You Okay, I'm not going

26:32to take over. I'm not going to take

26:34nothing. I'm going to sit here and be

26:35quiet because this is the first time.

26:37This is the first time. This is the

26:39first time I got to see the whole

26:41podium.

26:43>> The whole podium.

26:47THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

26:49WHY ARE Y'ALL DOING THIS FOR?

26:52Are y'all really for the community?

26:54>> Are you You've been You've [laughter]

26:55been You've been a police officer for

26:57how long?

26:58What? You You done WHERE ARE YOU? YOU

27:02KNOW, you locked me up.

27:17So

27:19once again what we are experiencing live

27:25is the process and beginning of healing

27:31ever.

27:33I remember when I first accepted the

27:35position,

27:37a mother called and said, "Mr. Cook,

27:41I believe that my son might have a

27:43pistol

27:45and he feel like he's homicidal." So,

27:47it's a difference between homicidal and

27:48suicidal.

27:50And I remember knocking on the door and

27:53I went inside of his house and he was

27:55curled up in the corner. Where's coach?

27:57Coach, if you're here, raise your hand.

28:01and he was called up in the corner and

28:04he said, "I feel like I want to kill

28:07everybody that's outside."

28:10And coach said, "What is it that we can

28:12do to make things better?"

28:15And he said, "I don't know what to do.

28:19You the professional."

28:22I remember this kid, where's Cory

28:24Priest?

28:26We got a call from probation and parole

28:29and they were fighting in Cherry Lane.

28:32And Cory bought one group and I bought

28:34one group.

28:36And the kid said, "I want to kill you."

28:39He said, "Because you shot me and I

28:42don't even know you."

28:44And Corey said, "How do you shoot a man

28:47that you don't know?" And the boy said,

28:49"Because you were over there."

28:53The hardest thing in the world to do is

28:56to preach safety when you have a father

28:59morning. But I'mma try

29:02because for I reckon the suffering of

29:04yesterday is unworthy to compare to the

29:07glory that God has for you.

29:11When you being pulled in two different

29:12directions, the best way is to go

29:14straight.

29:16I can't build a bridge for what

29:18happened, but I can guarantee that

29:22there's someone up there saying, "I'm

29:24tired of our kids dying."

29:29What do you do when a kid say

29:33that the only time I'm seen when I'm in

29:36front of the court of law?

29:41What do you do when you put a kid in a

29:43position to work? And he said, "Mr.

29:45Hook. I cannot work here.

29:48You wonder why I wear a face mask?

29:51Because the little bit of integrity I

29:53got, I don't want every and each person

29:55to die just because I am there.

29:59What do you do when you haven't met your

30:01father

30:03and he lives right across the street?

30:06Mr. Cook, what do you mean you're going

30:07to love me when my own father hasn't

30:11cared for me in decades?

30:15The trouble thing the person said,

30:16"Listen, why don't you build a new

30:18school?"

30:22He said, "Well, why don't you build a

30:23playground?" I said, "Well, these kids

30:24that I'm talking about in in school,

30:27they ain't in the playground."

30:30The hardest thing to attain is something

30:32that you can't see.

30:35It's called peace.

30:38It's inside of you. It's free, but it's

30:41the hardest thing to attain.

30:43The hardest thing to find is love and

30:46it's free.

30:50It's inside of you. The hardest thing to

30:53find is hope

30:55and it's free.

30:57So, as I'm writing my SOPs

31:00and my parameters to building the Office

31:02of Violence Prevention, there is no

31:04writing for how do you teach love to

31:08your community?

31:10How do you teach peace to your

31:11community? Listen.

31:13My dad used to do some obscene things to

31:16my mother as though he didn't know her.

31:20And then he got the nerve to commit

31:21suicide.

31:25And I always thought to myself, well,

31:26wasn't I good enough for you to walk me

31:29to school or take me to a basketball

31:31game?

31:34Or maybe you showed up when I graduated.

31:42I found the father in my community.

31:44People that said it was okay to be

31:47better. Here's what we got right now.

31:51We got a little kid getting off the bus

31:55and all around them is heroin,

31:58drugs,

32:00abuse, prostitution. And the teacher

32:02SAID, "WELL, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE WHEN

32:04you get older?" Hey, how could I be

32:08anything if all I see is destruction?

32:11Wington, we got a problem.

32:15The probable analysis is stating that

32:18the top shooter right now is between the

32:21ages of 13 and 16

32:25with guns this long.

32:28That's long guns. Wilington, we got a

32:31problem. And if we don't unite

32:36and stand together,

32:38our people will perish, one person at a

32:42time.

32:44I don't care about a position. In fact,

32:46I don't even know why I accepted the

32:48position.

32:49I thought I was somebody. The thousand

32:52people told me I wasn't. I had to pray

32:55about it. I said, "But God, I thought I

32:57was somebody." Then somebody said, "You

32:59you might not be." And I said, 'Well,

33:01guess what? I want to learn how to build

33:05with each and every person here.

33:08Give me the feedback that I need. The

33:12feedback was real.

33:15The feedback was real. I accept it and I

33:20will be a part of the solution.

33:23Thank you for your time. Thank you for

33:25giving me opportunity.

33:29But I want to make one thing clear

33:32that this is a unified effort.

33:37That Wilmington is still the best city.

33:41We had some hardships. We have some

33:43mountains to climb.

33:46But if you believe, like I believe,

33:48you'll take a position where you got to

33:50start from scratch.

33:57>> [applause]

34:04>> Thank you, [clears throat] director.

34:09As we talk more about the violence

34:12prevention and community response,

34:14wanted to introduce Mr. Javar Simpson.

34:17He's the director of group violence

34:19intervention. Javar Simpson leads GVI.

34:22When group and gang involvement and the

34:24possibility of retaliation

34:26are confirmed, GVI helps organize

34:30targeted engagement, deescalation, and

34:33an individual response, an individual

34:36response plan, excuse me. Please welcome

34:38Mr. Director Javar Simpson.

34:42[applause]

34:47Good evening, everybody. My name is

34:48Javar Simpson. I'm the current interim

34:50director of group violence intervention.

34:53John, you're a tough fact to follow,

34:54brother. [laughter]

34:56Um,

34:57Group Violence Intervention,

34:59we are an initiative that is geared

35:02towards reducing gun violence throughout

35:04the state. I know we're here to talk

35:06about Wilmington, but just wanted to

35:08mention we are statewide. So, our main

35:12priority is to work with individuals who

35:15have been identified as the most likely

35:17to either shoot or be shot. We provide

35:21um opportunities for these individuals

35:24to stabilize them, to get them off the

35:25streets, to provide decent opportunities

35:28for living, for um careers and things of

35:31that nature. We focus on providing, you

35:34know, key skiing in on social

35:35determinance of life, ensuring that they

35:37have appropriate employment

35:39opportunities, ensuring that they have

35:40appropriate education opportunities,

35:42ensuring that they have appropriate uh

35:44mental health um access, uh hospital

35:47access, things of that nature in order

35:49to ensure that they're stabilized and

35:51are able to move forward and progressive

35:53as good citizens here in Wilmington. Um,

35:57I understand we definitely have an

35:59issue, a problem, and a concern here in

36:01Wilmington, and we're here to address.

36:04As a GVI, we work in collaboration with

36:08everybody here at the table. It's not a

36:10a solo effort. It's not just a police

36:12effort. It's not just a council effort.

36:14It's not just a GVI effort. we have to

36:16collaborate amongst each other in order

36:18to ensure that the appropriate resources

36:20and appropriate capacity is provided to

36:23assist in the in the issues that we're

36:26we're we're trying to um solve. Um,

36:29another thing that GVI is, you know, is

36:32is geared to do, whenever there's a

36:34shooting, you know, there is a plan.

36:36Everybody here is a part of that overall

36:38plan to respond to that shooting.

36:41Everybody has a different capacity. For

36:43GVI, our capacity is to provide uh

36:46community support. It's to provide

36:48anti-retaly messaging, which means we

36:51hear, you know, we receive a shooting. I

36:53get like John said and like Chief Campo

36:55said, we get uh you know soon as a a

36:58incident occurs I whether it's 5:00 in

37:01the morning on Saturday or it's in the

37:02evening time I get a a text with within

37:06our group and within our group is saying

37:08hey you know this just happened it's

37:10time for us to respond. GVI's response

37:12is who is the victim? Who were the

37:16affiliated individuals around that

37:17victim? and we want to be able to

37:19identify them so that way we can go out

37:21and provide an anti- retaliatory

37:23message. The anti-retaly message is

37:25simple. Hey, we understand something

37:28tragic just happened. However, if you go

37:30out and do

37:32compile on that, it doesn't help the

37:35situation. So, we were here to, you

37:37know, provide that message of there's no

37:39please put down the guns. Let's figure

37:41out a way that we can talk about this,

37:43work through this, solve this. And the

37:45way that we're doing that is providing

37:47these individuals resources like I spoke

37:50about earlier. Employment, education,

37:53mental health access, um physical health

37:56access, all those things are extremely

37:59important components to allowing an

38:01individual to be successful. Anybody who

38:04doesn't have those vital components,

38:06basic needs, basic needs, the likelihood

38:09of their success, the likelihood of them

38:11being able to move forward is decreased.

38:14So, our job, plain and simple, is to

38:17provide help and support to community

38:19members who are most likely to either be

38:22involved in a shooting as the shooter or

38:25to be on the other side as the person

38:28who was shot. Um, when that occurs, we

38:31pop into action. We work in

38:33collaboration with our our our fellow

38:35entities and organizations to ensure

38:37that we provide

38:40appropriate response. And and I will say

38:42before I close um you know I've been

38:45working with GVI I've been at GVI for

38:47the over the past seven years um and

38:50there is always you know there's es and

38:52flows to things es and flows and over

38:55our time you know statistics we look at

38:57statistics all the time and you know

39:01statistics show that the violence is

39:04decreasing. However I will say one

39:07shooting is one shooting too much. So

39:10even though that the statistics are

39:11showing that violence is going down, we

39:13can clearly see over the last two weeks,

39:15three weeks here in Wilmington, that

39:17uptick that EB is on an upflow. So

39:19that's one, two, three shootings too

39:21many. So our job is to be consistent in

39:24our approach is to be uh uh use fidelity

39:28in regards to working with our partners

39:30and ensure that we can make Wilmington a

39:33safe place. Thank you for your time.

39:38Thank you, director.

39:40Um, like to now bring up the attorney

39:43general's director of community

39:45engagement and GI GVI strategic officer,

39:48Mr. Corey Priest, connects communities

39:51across the state with holistic services.

39:55In addition to being GVI strategist, his

39:58role helps partners understand relevant

40:01group dynamics and coordinate focus,

40:04support, and accountability. Please

40:06welcome Mr. Corey Priest.

40:16Good evening.

40:19So, first I want to thank uh all you who

40:21are in tennis tonight. Uh really it's a

40:24be if you look around it's a beautiful

40:25sight to see. Uh it's really a beautiful

40:27sight to see man that all y'all in here

40:29for this common goal of a safe a safe

40:32community in the city of Wilmington. Uh

40:34my name is Corey Priest. I'm the

40:35director of community engagement for the

40:37office of the attorney general. I've

40:39been in this role for seven and a half

40:40years. Uh and quite frankly it's a role

40:43that I I've never would have fathom in

40:45my life to be in. You know I'm from the

40:47Southbridge projects in 2013 in Jessup.

40:50No, attorney general had the had had the

40:52courage to hire me as the community

40:54engagement specialist seven years ago. I

40:57rose through the ranks. I'm now the

40:58director of community engagement for the

40:59office of the attorney general. I'm

41:01going to keep my words brief for the

41:03mere fact that I want to hear y'all

41:04questions. Uh so we got a couple more

41:06people after me. Uh but I'm going to

41:08keep mine a little brief. Uh and so when

41:11we look at each other and we understand

41:13what's going on in our community, we all

41:14know what the answers and solutions are.

41:17We can't work in silos when we talking

41:18about our young people who are losing

41:20their lives at alarming rates in our

41:22city. We got to work together. We got to

41:24come together and we got to work in

41:26unison uh to address these issues

41:28whether it's school issues, community

41:30issues, or the system in its whole. We

41:32got to come together. We can't work in

41:34silos. We got to put our pride to the

41:36side and we got to do what's right for

41:38the people of our community, especially

41:40of our young folks. So, I'm gonna keep

41:42it short and this that's all I have.

41:44Please ask ask some questions. Uh, and

41:46and I would love I'm a open book, y'all.

41:48Um, and I think we need to get level

41:51with this issue here. We can't beat

41:52around the bush. We got to hold our

41:55people's accountable, our elected

41:56officials accountable, our community

41:58partners are accountable, and our

42:00neighbors accountable.

42:01I mean, so that's all I got. I can't

42:04wait for you guys to ask ask y'all

42:06questions uh so we can get down to the

42:08nitty-gritty. We need the solutions. We

42:10need uh uh uh uh out of the box thinking

42:14solutions. Now, I mean, we already know

42:16the little simple things. We got to

42:17really get gut level and talk about

42:19innovative solutions to tackle this

42:21issue, and we need to put the dollars

42:23behind it.

42:25Thank you.

42:30Thank you, Corey. Um, we also want to

42:33address neighborhood stability and

42:35support.

42:37Like to introduce to you our

42:38commissioner of licensing and

42:39inspection, Mr. Gabriel Pabone.

42:42Commissioner Gabriel Pabone leads the

42:44city's work involving property

42:46conditions,

42:47code concerns, nuisance properties, and

42:50vacant and unsafe buildings. His

42:54department helps address physical

42:55conditions that affect neighborhood

42:58safety and stability. Ladies and

43:00gentlemen, Commissioner Gabriel Pabone.

43:12First, I want to start by saying thank

43:14you to Mr. Cook, the mayor for adding me

43:16to this group. Um, license and

43:18inspections. A lot of the work we do is,

43:20as uh, Mr. Morris said, is we regulate

43:23properties. So, a lot of people think,

43:26you know, what does that have to do a

43:27lot with crime? I say it has to do a lot

43:30with crime, right? Mr. Cook stood right

43:32here and say, "How does a child go to

43:34school and feel that he can become

43:36something when all he see is vacant

43:38properties and homes in our neighborhood

43:40have been not been taken care of?" I

43:43believe that way for way too long we've

43:45allowed people to come into our

43:46neighborhood, own homes in our

43:49neighborhoods and not take care of them,

43:51right? Vacant properties,

43:54owners that are having properties that

43:56are not regulating them are not keeping

43:59them safe. That is the work that we do,

44:01right? The work that I and my team is

44:05looking to do is to enforce the code to

44:07ensure that people are keeping their

44:09properties that are taking care of their

44:11properties that we don't have properties

44:13in our neighborhoods that people are

44:16able to hide in, right? Do do a lot of

44:21just crime and just alleys that are just

44:24unkempt. So that's the work that we're

44:27here to do. Um, I have, again, I'm here.

44:30So, if you guys have any questions on

44:32license and inspections, I can tell you

44:33that we're going through the city. We're

44:35looking at all the properties. We're

44:37looking at all the vacant properties.

44:38We're holding all owners accountable

44:39regardless of who you are. We are making

44:42sure that these properties are being

44:43kept up and that they're being

44:45maintained and owners have license. So,

44:48thank you for having me here and uh, you

44:51know, for to hear any of your questions.

44:53Thank you.

44:57Thank you, Commissioner. Now, I'd like

44:59to bring up our commissioner of land use

45:01and planning, Elliot Lkins. Supports

45:05land use and planning coordination. His

45:08role helps connect community safety

45:10concerns with responsible planning,

45:13environmental conditions, and long-term

45:15neighborhood improvements. Uh, please

45:17welcome Commissioner Elliot Lkins.

45:26Good evening everyone.

45:28I'd like to thank Director Cook and the

45:31mayor for inviting me.

45:35It's humbling to stand in front of you

45:36today.

45:40But I want to share a little bit about

45:41what land use and planning does. Land

45:44use and planning is responsible for the

45:47responsible planning and growth of the

45:50city.

45:52that involves construction, development,

45:55neighborhood planning, business

45:58compliance.

46:00Many of those things go unnoticed, but

46:03they affect everything that we do. We're

46:06responsible for

46:08tracking how well we move through our

46:11comprehensive plan, how we grow as a

46:15city, how our communities are able to be

46:18safe, understanding what factors need to

46:21change in the community in order to

46:24increase the safety.

46:26There are small changes that can make a

46:28big difference. whether it be

46:30transportation, whether it be more eyes

46:34on the street, and a lot of that comes

46:37through our built environment.

46:39Another side of it is compliance with

46:42the zoning code and business compliance.

46:45We're responsible for overseeing

46:46businesses, making sure that they're

46:48licensed within the city, and also

46:51making sure that they're upholding to

46:54those licenses that they have. So when

46:57there are issues with businesses and

46:59there are problems, whether it's a

47:01corner store, whether it's a pharmacy,

47:04whether it's a gas station, we go and we

47:07check and make sure that those

47:09businesses are licensed. We make sure

47:10that they are in compliance not only

47:13with city requirements, but we partner

47:15with the Department of Health and Social

47:18Services. We partner with DATE, and we

47:22partner with Denrech.

47:24These are all environmental

47:28issues that affect our neighborhoods.

47:31And I'm looking forward to any questions

47:33that you may have. And I'm here. Thank

47:36you.

47:42>> Thank you, Commissioner. Now, I'd like

47:44to bring up the executive director of

47:47the Wilmington Housing Authority. Mr.

47:49Ray Fitzgerald leads the Wilmington

47:51Housing Authority. This partnership is

47:53important

47:55with residents and families need housing

47:58connections and when coordinated

48:00neighborhood support involves Wilmington

48:02Housing Authority communities. Please

48:04welcome Executive Director Mr. Ray

48:06Fitzgerald.

48:13Good afternoon. Thanks everybody for

48:15being here to support this uh effort to

48:17make some positive changes in the

48:19community. Uh I'm here to talk about the

48:22supports that uh my agency can offer in

48:25terms of providing housing, housing

48:27support, workforce development andu and

48:30community revitalization.

48:32Um you can't have a strong stable

48:34community without without having strong

48:37housing support system in place and

48:39that's our goal at Wilmington Housing

48:41Authority. So, uh, most people know

48:43that, you know, um, well, let me say

48:45this. Before I, uh, became the executive

48:47director of Wilmington Housing

48:49Authority, I was the director of social

48:51services for the state of Delaware. So,

48:54I ran the state's welfare programs and I

48:56had access to resources that um, one we

48:59did what hasn't been done in social

49:02services and we put a lot of those

49:04resources in the community to help build

49:06up community organizations and things

49:08like that. So, one of the biggest uh you

49:11know, we were very creative and one of

49:13the biggest um recipients of those

49:17dollars was the city of Wilmington and

49:18programs, community programs in the city

49:21of Wilmington. I mention that because I

49:23have the same mindset uh in my role at

49:26the Wilmington Housing Authority. you

49:29know, Wilmington Housing Authority uh

49:31manages over 2,000 um public housing

49:35units and over 2,000 section 8 units. Um

49:40we also um activated a nonprofit and our

49:43nonprofit has raised millions of dollars

49:47over the last three or four years and

49:49projects that uh did things like um

49:53neighborhood revitalization projects. We

49:55had a lot of long-term vacant units,

49:57some vacant more than 30 years, and we

50:00used our resources to get rid of those

50:02vacant units.

50:05Let me finish. Let me finish again. Yes,

50:07sir. Um, we also uh have a home

50:10ownership program since 200 uh 9. We've

50:14helped 145 uh d Wilmingtonians uh buy

50:18houses, and not one foreclosure has

50:21resulted from that support.

50:26Well, we are these the reason I'm

50:29mentioning these programs is because we

50:32we create programs that support the

50:35community. So, when we have these uh

50:38construction projects, we make sure that

50:40our contractors hire people from the

50:42community. We have a lead program. We

50:44got a $5 million grant from the federal

50:46government to renovate our long-term our

50:49uh get lead out of our units. Instead of

50:52just giving it to contractors and

50:53letting them do it, we created a lead

50:55training program where we certified the

50:58participants and lead got them lead

51:00certified and then they we we made our

51:03contractors hire those people. The

51:06reason that I'm mentioning these things

51:08is not to highlight what we're doing, to

51:12highlight the creativity that we're

51:14bringing to the table to help provide

51:17economic development and neighborhood

51:18stabilization to some of the properties

51:21that have been long neglected for a long

51:24term time in the community. So, uh,

51:28these programs are are going to be an

51:29option, uh, as we go forward and, um,

51:33the people in the communities that we're

51:35serving will have an opportunity to take

51:37advantage of these programs as they have

51:40at present.

51:42So, I I'll be available to answer any

51:44questions when that period arises, but

51:46uh, thank you for your time.

51:51>> Thank you, director. Uh we have one more

51:54uh uh speaker as well like to introduce

51:57our director of parks and wreck Dr.

51:59Melody Phillips.

52:04So I'm usually the person they bring up

52:06here for energy, right? And because you

52:09can't be lazy or not have good energy

52:12when you're talking about saving the

52:13lives of young people, can you? And so

52:15it's my job and the responsibility of my

52:17team to make sure that all of the youth

52:20in the age ranges of 5 to 17 as well as

52:22seniors have activities that they can

52:24do. And so we hired 245 youth this past

52:28summer. We have the next level emerging

52:31program. We have our next level program.

52:33And let me tell you a little bit about

52:34our youth career development program.

52:36Youth can be hired as young as 14 years

52:39old. They're in our workforce track 14

52:40to 15. Next level emerging is preparing

52:43them for a career pathway connected back

52:46to their high school pathway. So we're

52:49partnering with the schools that's 16 to

52:5117. Then we have next level 17 to 24.

52:55They are the youth who are planning out

52:57our youth summit each year and then

52:59providing workforce development training

53:02to their peers. I am a core believer in

53:05youth leadership. William Hicks Anderson

53:07Community Center is in the heart of

53:09everything that parks and recreation

53:10does. And so if you want to make sure

53:12that your young person is involved in

53:14activities, that they have a slew of

53:16things outside, parks and recreation

53:18stay outside, right? And so it's really

53:20important that you all know that we are

53:22here to support your babies. We are here

53:24to do everything that we possibly can to

53:27make sure that they are safe, that they

53:28are well taken care of. William Hicks

53:30Anderson Community Center has 60 spots

53:32open for its afterchool program and it's

53:35free. They absolutely can come here as

53:37young as 5 years old. Our summer camp

53:39program as well usually holds up to 50

53:42spots. And so I'm just here to let all

53:44of you know that we are here to support

53:45you. We are here to make sure that your

53:47youth and your children are taken care

53:49of because your babies are our babies.

53:51And if there's anything that we can do

53:53to make life just a little bit easier

53:54for parents and guardians, that is what

53:56we're here to do. Thank you.

54:02[applause]

54:03>> Thank you, Dr. Phillips.

54:05Um we are now about to

54:12>> Yes ma'am. We are about to open

54:14[clears throat] public comment. Uh

54:16before we start just like to in respect

54:19of time and all of the voices that need

54:21to be heard. We'd like everyone to keep

54:23in mind uh the area of about five

54:26minutes uh to to say and speak whatever

54:29uh you have on your heart. Really

54:31quickly, I'd like to point out our

54:33constituent services department is

54:35Regita Fields here. Is Tanya Phillips

54:39here? Um any questions that are not able

54:42to be addressed because of the lack of

54:44time, you can see either of these ladies

54:47um at any point after uh the

54:49presentation and we will make sure that

54:51all of your questions and concerns get

54:53directly to our director community

54:56safety. So, we'll now open up the floor

54:58for public comments. We ask each speaker

55:00to state their name. Keep comments

55:03brief, please. Five minutes or so, and

55:06focused on community safety and respect

55:09every person in the room. City staff

55:12will document questions or concerns and

55:15that will require followup.

55:18So, we will go ahead and begin.

55:37test.

55:40So, uh, thank y'all for coming out. My

55:43name is James Taylor. Um,

55:48my question is kind of a two-parter. I'm

55:50going keep it brief.

55:53director, you you asked the question how

55:55a child can look out and see what they

55:59see every day and then think that they

56:02can become something.

56:05Um, I I would hazard a guess and say

56:07that, you know, part of that solution is

56:10is the government showing them that they

56:13care about him. This brother sat here

56:15and said that he hadn't heard from

56:16anybody in almost 90 days regarding his

56:19son

56:20over 90. And so my first question is

56:27>> solid, brother. That's solid. My first

56:30question is um is the government willing

56:34to to to give that that image to the

56:37community by saying this young brother's

56:39name? as we keep talking about this in

56:42the abstract. Uh my the second part of

56:45my question is I've heard everybody talk

56:49about this holistic approach yet. No one

56:51has talked about the issue of the

56:53government itself adding to the death

56:55toll. So where does that come into the

56:58plan and how do the different offices

57:03contribute to that conversation?

57:06Because youth violence isn't just youth

57:08violence when they do it to each other.

57:10Youth violence is is youth violence when

57:13the government kills the youth, too.

57:17So, will you speak this young brother's

57:19name? And what are y'all doing to make

57:22sure that you all aren't a part of the

57:24violence when you're responding to

57:25things that happen in the community?

57:31>> [applause]

57:45>> We have

57:59an answer.

58:49Well,

58:51[sighs]

58:53please please give me a second. Give me

58:56one second.

58:57fears.

58:59>> No,

59:01>> say that. But I wanted to say one thing.

59:05>> This is why people in position

59:08are in position. You got to be the

59:11first.

59:26I wanted to answer the other partition

59:35to speak.

59:38What are we doing?

59:44>> So, so, so y'all just came up here for

59:46this whole

59:50whatever y'all got going on from what

59:54the community is frustrated.

59:57If the head,

59:59the body won't function.

1:00:18>> So I want to answer one part to your

1:00:20question.

1:00:23One of the things that

1:00:26when I accepted a position,

1:00:29I wanted to ensure that everybody that's

1:00:32associated with making sure a kid get

1:00:34the best quality service unites.

1:00:38I wasn't going to accept a position just

1:00:41like for group violence intervention

1:00:43unless the entire cabinet council

1:00:46got together to ensure that when kids

1:00:50are saying that they want to make a

1:00:51change

1:00:53and their FICO scores was 400 or 500 or

1:00:56600 which prevented them to get into

1:00:58safe housing that I was going to be

1:01:00connected with someone from a CRA from a

1:01:03bank from the housing authority to

1:01:04ensure that they receive 24-month

1:01:06vouchers.

1:01:07I wanted to ensure that if they were

1:01:09unable to have the appropriate education

1:01:13because of the credit remediation of the

1:01:15past, I wanted to ensure that the

1:01:16education part was a part of that. I

1:01:18also wanted to ensure that there was a

1:01:21way for them to make better decisions

1:01:22that everybody unified. That's all that

1:01:24I just wanted to say that if I accepted

1:01:26this position and one part to which

1:01:28you're saying, I wanted to ensure that

1:01:30everyone came together for a holistic

1:01:32approach to make things better.

1:01:44So I I am not well first of all I am uh

1:01:49Trippy Congo, president of Wington City

1:01:52Council. I am not answering for the

1:01:55administration. Council is separate from

1:01:57the administration.

1:01:59But I do think that something has to be

1:02:01acknowledged.

1:02:03Does anybody here have a girlfriend?

1:02:08Anybody have a have a boyfriend? Anybody

1:02:10have a a husband or a wife? And I'm I'm

1:02:13getting somewhere, so just be patient

1:02:15with me.

1:02:16Have you ever had a conflict with your

1:02:20boyfriend or with your girlfriend or

1:02:22with your husband or with your wife?

1:02:25And when you have that conflict,

1:02:28has that other person ever tried to

1:02:32skip around talking about the the

1:02:34conflict and move on to something else?

1:02:37You know, that is very difficult to do.

1:02:40That is very difficult. So you find you

1:02:43find yourselves in that relationship

1:02:46and you're not able to move past it

1:02:49because something hasn't been

1:02:51acknowledged

1:02:54a at some point our government and I'm

1:02:58going to say our government because I am

1:02:59a part of the government we have to

1:03:01acknowledge

1:03:02the frustration and the anger and the

1:03:05disappointment

1:03:09that our community ass and and this

1:03:13uptick in violence is in no way the

1:03:17police department's fault. So, I'm not

1:03:19laying the blame there. But it is going

1:03:21to be very hard for the police

1:03:23department, for the mayor, for the

1:03:26administration, for city government to

1:03:28come and say, "Hey, we want to talk to

1:03:30you about something when we haven't

1:03:32talked to you about the bigger

1:03:34something."

1:03:37And until we're able to have that

1:03:39conversation,

1:03:41until we're able to talk about even the

1:03:43attorney general's role

1:03:46in that police shooting and how she has

1:03:50not

1:03:52come forward and said something

1:03:56and how she has made it, in my opinion,

1:03:58extremely political.

1:04:01It is very frustrating to be associated

1:04:03with

1:04:05Wington's local government when I know

1:04:07how frustrated and angry you are and for

1:04:11us just not to acknowledge it like for I

1:04:15don't know if you and John even know

1:04:17each other but for John just to come up

1:04:20to you and give you a hug and and that's

1:04:23all he needs. like this man just wants

1:04:25to be acknowledged

1:04:27and our community

1:04:29our our our our community our community

1:04:33needs to be acknowledged. So, I don't

1:04:35know if we can't read the room if we

1:04:37don't know the audience, but this

1:04:39audience needs to be acknowledged.

1:04:44>> And I don't know how we get past. I

1:04:47don't know how we get to B, C, D, and F.

1:04:51D, E, and F if we don't talk about A.

1:04:54And we're not saying talk about it.

1:04:58We're not saying talk about the details.

1:05:00We're not saying that. We're saying it

1:05:01has to be acknowledged and it has to be

1:05:06I don't I don't know. I we don't get it

1:05:09like for for for that for him to ask

1:05:11that question and nobody said anything

1:05:17[cheering]

1:05:28to me.

1:05:39I

1:05:41I hear the question

1:05:44and I acknowledge the pain

1:05:47and you all know as well as I do

1:05:52that this is a matter under

1:05:54investigation

1:05:56about which

1:05:59I'm not able to comment.

1:06:02Does my heart hurt for your loss?

1:06:07Absolutely.

1:06:09Do I recognize

1:06:11that we have to find a way to work

1:06:13through this? That at some point there's

1:06:14going to be a decision by the attorney

1:06:17general.

1:06:18>> Absolutely.

1:06:21I heard the council president say a

1:06:22little little while ago

1:06:25that we all ought to be think long and

1:06:28hard about coming together after that

1:06:31decision is made because ultimately

1:06:34there's going to be a decision. I don't

1:06:36know what it's going to be.

1:06:38Uh but uh I know that we need to rise

1:06:41above to make sure that doesn't tear our

1:06:43city apart. And that's what I'm going to

1:06:46try to do as your mayor.

1:07:05Good evening. My name is Jerry Cherry.

1:07:10And

1:07:13good evening. My name is Jerry Cherry.

1:07:17I'm a long-term resident of Wilmington.

1:07:20I lived right here in the bucket for

1:07:22many years. I worked for the Wilmington

1:07:25Police Department for a few years. I

1:07:28worked for the city of Wilmington for 30

1:07:30years.

1:07:33After retirement, I left. I moved south

1:07:36and my grandkids begged me to come home.

1:07:41Why?

1:07:43Because they were afraid to go anywhere.

1:07:45Nobody could take them anywhere. I was a

1:07:48retired grandmother with a Cadillac. I I

1:07:51could drive them around. My daughter was

1:07:53working. Their father wasn't available.

1:07:56And they had nothing to do. No place to

1:07:59go, no activities.

1:08:02And when I came back, I started a

1:08:05YouTube channel. Start a YouTube channel

1:08:08for old people like myself. However, my

1:08:11grandkids got involved because there was

1:08:14nothing else to do. Recently, this

1:08:17summer, they did come to Hicks Anderson

1:08:20for camp. It was a wonderful experience.

1:08:23I had a few bumps in the road, but I

1:08:26addressed that cuz I am vocal and I'm

1:08:29not about playing. I didn't live too

1:08:32long.

1:08:34I'm going to tell you the skinny.

1:08:37When Wilmington police come out, they do

1:08:41not give us the respect that we are due.

1:08:46They come out

1:08:48angry. They come out in our communities

1:08:51with their hand on a gun. THEY DON'T

1:08:54COME OUT WITH their hand extended

1:08:58>> as friends.

1:09:00And we are tired of it.

1:09:03We are a community

1:09:06>> and if you come to my door and you got

1:09:09your hand on your gun,

1:09:12>> you're not going to get anything good

1:09:14from me.

1:09:16>> So, it's how you approach us.

1:09:20>> I want to tell you

1:09:22>> that I've seen what we call the blue

1:09:26wave. Ain't that what we call it, my

1:09:28friend? where they come out and they act

1:09:31like, and I'm talking about the blue,

1:09:33the people who are wearing them blue

1:09:35suits, they act like they going to help

1:09:39us, but they're not. And you know why?

1:09:42Because they got their hands slapped by

1:09:45the ACLU

1:09:47with a lawsuit.

1:09:49>> But I'm here to tell you that it was

1:09:52dismissed.

1:09:55>> Yeah. The ACLU brought the lawsuit for

1:09:59illegal search and stop and frisk and

1:10:01all that. Well, here's what happens when

1:10:05you slap me on my hand and tell me I've

1:10:08done something wrong. Guess what I'm

1:10:11going to do? Squat. I ain't going to do

1:10:13nothing. SO, WE CALL the police to come

1:10:16out and I watched it and I had

1:10:19videotape. I called the officers to come

1:10:22out to a disturbance across the street

1:10:24from my house. They came out. The young

1:10:28lady cussed, kicked, screamed, and they

1:10:31threatened to lock her up, but they

1:10:34didn't. And you know why? Cuz they were

1:10:36hiding behind the fact that they had a

1:10:39lawsuit. The ACLU

1:10:42said they couldn't stop. They couldn't

1:10:45question. They could That's bull.

1:10:49And now it's been dismissed. You don't

1:10:53believe me? Go check.

1:10:56They have dismissed it. So now what's

1:10:58your excuse? You come in our

1:11:00communities, COME AND DO YOUR JOB. DON'T

1:11:04come out there acting like you scared.

1:11:07>> My sister was in the park at Second

1:11:10Street when the shooting happened. I had

1:11:13it on videotape, but it got removed.

1:11:18The cops were there when the shooting

1:11:21started. You understand? They were there

1:11:24and they DID NOTHING. [screaming]

1:11:27>> MY sister was there. Anybody know LL?

1:11:31You know she's the truth.

1:11:33So I'm telling you, you got to have a

1:11:36different attitude.

1:11:38>> YOU WITH US,

1:11:40>> be with us. Don't stand on the other

1:11:43side of the street looking AT US.

1:11:46PUT YOUR HAND out as a gesture that we

1:11:51CAN WORK THIS TOGETHER. OTHERWISE, it's

1:11:54going to be us against you. [sighs]

1:11:57>> And that's all I got to say about you.

1:11:59Want to check me out? You find me on

1:12:02YouTube. What nobody told me after 65.

1:12:04I'm 69 years old and I've been in a

1:12:07fight a long TIME AND I'M TIRED OF

1:12:10FIGHTING. SOME OF YOU YOUNG PEOPLE,

1:12:12BESIDES PICKING UP GUNS, PICK UP A BOOK,

1:12:16>> PICK UP THE DOG ON uh uh uh newspaper,

1:12:20pick up something that's going to

1:12:21educate you because we getting old. We

1:12:25can't keep doing it. But I'm here

1:12:27tonight to tell you I'm for it. I'm for

1:12:30the shenanigans. Bring it.

1:12:41retailers in the back.

1:12:44Ain't nobody

1:12:49ridiculous, man.

1:13:05>> Oh, it's a mic. Okay. Am

1:13:09I on?

1:13:11>> Not yet.

1:13:13>> Just give me the sign when when to start

1:13:15talking.

1:13:17My name is Brother Dwight L. Davis, West

1:13:21Center City. What I want to say is I

1:13:25want to first of all thank the Center

1:13:27for Structural Equity for making me a

1:13:30part of the team.

1:13:31We've gotten up in age and they think

1:13:34because we done got older, we done. I

1:13:37come this evening to talk about a plan.

1:13:41Just like you got the flock cameras

1:13:44falling behind people's cars, we coming

1:13:47with AI technology, artificial

1:13:49intelligence. We're going to bring AI

1:13:52into West Center City in order to bring

1:13:56all this plan together. On Monday, we

1:14:00meeting with Verizon. We filed a

1:14:02complaint with the Federal Communication

1:14:05Commission. For all these years, we've

1:14:08been putting in the work in our brand.

1:14:11So now we want to talk about a data

1:14:14center, a artificial entity data center

1:14:18training for the young as well as the

1:14:20old. Now they got they got glasses for

1:14:24people like me that's visually impaired.

1:14:27that you you could just tell them to to

1:14:30to read something and to get the

1:14:31reading. So, what I want to say is

1:14:34welcome to West Center City Community

1:14:36Center cuz we built this center. We

1:14:39built this center and not only did we

1:14:42build this center, we built the Wickpack

1:14:45properties just across the street that

1:14:47you don't want to help us to fix them up

1:14:49so we can have affordable housing.

1:14:53NOT ONLY THAT, YOU THOUGHT BECAUSE YOU

1:14:55TORE DOWN the model city's motivational

1:14:57center, 800 West 9th Street, YOU THOUGHT

1:15:00YOU GOT RID OF ME. NO, you didn't get

1:15:03rid of me. Now I'm at the safe house.

1:15:05And now I done went now I'm in the safe

1:15:08house and I'm talking on AI, artificial

1:15:11intelligence. So what I'm saying to all

1:15:14you, stop complaining.

1:15:16>> We got to come together. And the way

1:15:19that we come together is to take this

1:15:21center and turn it into a AI artificial

1:15:25intelligence data computer training

1:15:28center so that we can develop the crime

1:15:32out of our community. And I thank you

1:15:34very very much and you have a blessed

1:15:36day.

1:15:43>> Hello everyone. My name is Ina. Um, I'm

1:15:47I'm for I'm all for community

1:15:49collaboration. Um, one of my questions

1:15:52for you guys today is and I hope

1:15:54somebody is taking notes because

1:15:57everybody have to understand the

1:15:59community helps the community just as

1:16:02well as the community showed up for you

1:16:04guys today. Y'all have to show up for

1:16:07them. It's a lot of people out there

1:16:10that literally want to create solutions,

1:16:13but you guys have to show up when it's

1:16:15needed. So, my question to you today is,

1:16:19are you guys open for your officers

1:16:23being trained with some of the community

1:16:26members together cuz that's the only way

1:16:30it's going to be heard in real time. So,

1:16:33please think about that. Training is

1:16:35very very important and it's a lot of

1:16:38stuff that need to be updated. It's a

1:16:40lot of officers that need to be trained

1:16:43but some officers need to be trained

1:16:45with the community members so the

1:16:48community members will know that they

1:16:51have a voice.

1:16:56>> All right. So, I know there are a lot of

1:16:59questions um and so I want to bring a

1:17:01little bit of order so I'm not mis

1:17:03mistaking anybody. So, please I'm going

1:17:06to change the program a little bit. All

1:17:08right. And I apologize for those of you

1:17:10who uh have has your hand up. If you can

1:17:13meet in a line so that we can get to

1:17:15your questions and I am not accidentally

1:17:18skipping over anyone that will be great.

1:17:21So, meet me up here if you have a

1:17:22question please.

1:17:27right here.

1:17:31>> Single file. Single file line, please.

1:17:38>> Single file line, please.

1:17:50I can see.

1:18:00>> All right. We want to make sure everyone

1:18:02gets the respect they were giving you.

1:18:04So, please make sure we can hear

1:18:07everybody. What I'm going to do, because

1:18:10after we leave here, we're all here

1:18:12talking about how much our youth matter.

1:18:14After we leave, this gym opens up for

1:18:16our youth to participate in their open

1:18:18gym safe haven activities. And so, we

1:18:21have to be out of here by 7:00. Because

1:18:23of that, I'm going to put a time of 2

1:18:25minutes per comment and question. Two

1:18:28minutes timeless. What's up, man? What's

1:18:32up? I'm going put a time of two minutes

1:18:34per question. If we don't get to your

1:18:37question,

1:18:38I hear a lot of talking.

1:18:41I hear a lot of talking.

1:18:43We're trying to be respectful here. If

1:18:46we don't get to your question, we've

1:18:48identified the constituent services

1:18:50team. We have Tanya Phillips over here.

1:18:53Tanya, please stand.

1:18:56And we have Brigita Fields. We also have

1:18:59Jacqueline Costinata up there. See them

1:19:03after this, but we want to get through

1:19:04the questions so we can get make sure

1:19:06our youth are here to play their

1:19:07recreation. All right.

1:19:10>> Awesome.

1:19:10>> Okay. Two minutes per question, ma'am.

1:19:14Hello. Thank you everyone for coming out

1:19:16tonight. My name is Kelly.

1:19:20>> Hold on everyone.

1:19:22We're talking about community. Let's

1:19:24respect our neighbors.

1:19:27All right.

1:19:30Make sure you hold it back.

1:19:32>> Thank you for coming out tonight. My

1:19:34name is Kelly Russell. I am the founder

1:19:35of First State Youth, which is a

1:19:37nonprofit uh youth group in Wilmington,

1:19:40Delaware. We are actionbased.

1:19:43We are in the community. We're providing

1:19:45resources daily for our young people.

1:19:48Our young people are not feeling heard.

1:19:50The our our original plan was to give

1:19:53them entrepreneurship uh skills. We're

1:19:56based out of uh the second chance shop

1:19:58on Lee Boulevard where youth come in

1:20:00almost daily asking for jobs. These kids

1:20:03do not feel heard. They're not in here

1:20:05tonight to speak on their behalf. I just

1:20:08want to know what we're doing for dropin

1:20:11services. All the resources that we are

1:20:14claiming to have available. How do they

1:20:16access those resources? How do they find

1:20:18out? If the parents don't even know

1:20:20where to get resources for their kids,

1:20:22the kids can't get them. A lot of

1:20:24schools don't know about the resources.

1:20:26I don't know. I I have had a lot of

1:20:28meetings with a few of the officials to

1:20:31get try to get or some type of registry.

1:20:35So all the nonprofit work that we are

1:20:37doing can be accessed to people. There's

1:20:41a lot of us doing good work in the

1:20:43community. It's just hard to get a

1:20:45directory of everything everyone has

1:20:48going on. Um I talk to the police all

1:20:51officers a lot. They don't have anywhere

1:20:54to take kids when they're having

1:20:56disagreements at home or they're just

1:20:58out in the streets for whatever the

1:21:00conflict is. The police themselves are

1:21:02saying they don't have anywhere to take

1:21:05kids for a cooling off period. I'm

1:21:08providing resources for Boys and Girls

1:21:10Club. I'm providing hydration. I'm

1:21:13providing whatever I can for community

1:21:16centers that I think are in need. We

1:21:17have a lot of big buildings here in

1:21:19Wilmington. We have a lot of big

1:21:22buildings, but we don't have active

1:21:24programs in these buildings. And if we

1:21:27do, I would love to know about them.

1:21:29Please reach out to me at First State

1:21:31Youth to let me know so I can let the

1:21:34young people know there are resources

1:21:36available because we're saying that

1:21:38there are resources but we can't find

1:21:40them. We can't find them. They're not

1:21:42published. They're not there's not an

1:21:44open database to where people know where

1:21:46to go. So, thank you for your time.

1:21:48First state youth, if you guys need any

1:21:51resources that I have available, I'm

1:21:53there. I just want to know where the

1:21:54resources is.

1:21:55>> I hear the idea. Publish a directory.

1:21:57We'll do that. There are plenty of uh

1:21:59activity centers. One right here, POW on

1:22:02the north side, all over.

1:22:06>> All right. Um if you can go see Tanya

1:22:08Phillips over there, she'll direct you.

1:22:09Miss Genie.

1:22:11>> Um I don't have a So I do have a few

1:22:14questions because I want to take

1:22:15advantage of having certain people here.

1:22:17I more or less want to make kind of a

1:22:19statement more so than a question. Hello

1:22:20everyone. My name is Gina Watson and

1:22:23I'll wait till I get the silence that I

1:22:25need to feel respected.

1:22:36My name is Gina Watson. I moved here to

1:22:38Wilmington in 2007 seven via Gardenzia

1:22:44program Kindred House. I had 15 years on

1:22:46the street on crack, 10 babies, 10 baby

1:22:49daddies. I'm 62 years now. I moved here.

1:22:52My first stop was Mary Mother of Hope.

1:22:54Then I went to the Salvation Army. got a

1:22:57job at Downtown Visions and the rest is

1:22:59history. Many of you know me from

1:23:01Riverside. They used to call me the

1:23:03mayor of Riverside. But I must say when

1:23:06you talk about a holistic approach when

1:23:08I first moved here, all that you see

1:23:10down in Riverside, Kingswood Community

1:23:12Center, Logan Hair and Aaron Bass was

1:23:15just in people's head. It wasn't even on

1:23:17paper yet. I think I came in probably

1:23:20about 10 years after you guys had

1:23:23started on that. So, I'm talking about

1:23:25two generations,

1:23:27and I'm still waiting for some respect

1:23:29that I I feel as though I need.

1:23:39And I say that to say I'm 62 now, just

1:23:43retired. I'm still trying to figure it

1:23:44out. You never get this, you guys, until

1:23:46the day you die. It's a journey. But you

1:23:50can't expect something that took us 400

1:23:52years to get to to vanish overnight.

1:23:55Okay? It's going to take generations to

1:23:57get back. My people were from the

1:23:59backwoods in Mon Georgia. So, we real

1:24:01simple folk. Y'all done made this

1:24:02too complicated. Excuse my French. But

1:24:05it starts at home. My father built

1:24:07houses from the ground up. And the first

1:24:10lesson is the foundation. If you don't

1:24:12have a strong foundation, it's downhill

1:24:15from there. when I first moved here. So,

1:24:17I say that to say when we talk about the

1:24:19gun violence, where's your child

1:24:21tonight? When's the last time you sat

1:24:23down and broke bread with your family as

1:24:24a family unit? So, the problem is not

1:24:27the system. The system is designed to do

1:24:29exactly what it's doing. The problem is

1:24:32us not knowing our value, not knowing

1:24:34who we are as a people. And what I would

1:24:36like to ask, it was Kristen on the end.

1:24:39I spoke to an officer the other day. I

1:24:41live on Seventh and West. and what I

1:24:44found out from speaking.

1:24:52>> All right, we're cutting into people's

1:24:53time. Um, but Miss Genie, you can please

1:24:55feel free to talk to him. Corey, if you

1:24:58can, or Councilwoman Willau, two

1:25:01minutes.

1:25:04>> Hello everyone. Good evening. I'm going

1:25:07to SAY THIS UNTIL JESUS COMES. WE'RE

1:25:10TALKING ABOUT THE GUN VIOLENCE IN THE

1:25:11CITY OF WILMINGTON. I RESPECTED MAYOR

1:25:15JAMES THIELS BECAUSE UNDER MAYOR JAMES

1:25:17TIELS, WE HAD OUTREACH WORKERS that went

1:25:19into the community and we went in every

1:25:22side of town, north side, west side,

1:25:25east side, AND SOUTH SIDE. WE ENGAGE

1:25:27WITH THE YOUTH. WE ENGAGE WITH THE YOUTH

1:25:29in the community. I respect Dr. Melanie

1:25:33Phillips for what she's doing with parks

1:25:35AND WRECK. WE CANNOT HELP THE CHILDREN

1:25:38AND WE DO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE FUNDING FOR

1:25:41PROGRAMS to go IN OUTREACH. THERE'S TOO

1:25:44MANY PEOPLE GET MONEY AND NOT DOING

1:25:46NOTHING.

1:25:48NOT DOING NOTHING. IF YOU'RE AFRAID TO

1:25:51GO OUT THERE IN THE STREETS, DON'T GO.

1:25:53THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO GO

1:25:55OUT AND ENGAGE WITH THESE CHILDREN. WE

1:25:57need funding. Trippy, YOU SAID WE HAD a

1:26:00whole LOT OF MONEY. LET'S PUT IT TO USE.

1:26:02Get some outreach workers and hit the

1:26:04street. [clears throat]

1:26:06Thank you, ma'am.

1:26:07>> Thank you.

1:26:20>> My name is Baba Baba Hamin.

1:26:23I'm a newbie to Garvey City. Y'all call

1:26:26it Wilmington.

1:26:27>> Could you lower your voices in the back,

1:26:29please? Thank you. Please.

1:26:30>> Excuse me. Those in the back, we you're

1:26:33disturbing everything that's going on.

1:26:36All right. Again,

1:26:39I'm not I wasn't born and raised here in

1:26:41Wilmington. I came here after, you know,

1:26:44the World Trade Center and all that got

1:26:46away from violence. And I thought

1:26:49Delaware were a nice nice place where

1:26:52people were friendly and

1:26:55respectable.

1:26:57I found out that's not true.

1:27:00Number one, I appreciate personally I

1:27:04appreciate what y'all doing today trying

1:27:06to let everybody in the community know

1:27:08what you're supposed to be doing. The

1:27:10major issue, the major issue we have

1:27:14right now that brought us to the table,

1:27:17I thought was resolved

1:27:20when Bam Bam got murdered.

1:27:24When Bam Bam was murdered and sitting in

1:27:26a wheelchair and and we had to go

1:27:29through all kinds of changes to to get

1:27:33justice, we thought that was over.

1:27:36Reason why people are angry and

1:27:38upsetting here right now, it's not over.

1:27:42You know why it's not over? Proof of not

1:27:44over because what happened to Bam Bam

1:27:47happened to the little brother Kadir

1:27:51murdered by a police officer. We thought

1:27:54that wasn't going to happen again. So,

1:27:57obviously, it's it's within the police

1:28:00department. Now, I know the police

1:28:02department is trying to do the best they

1:28:04can, but since I've been in in Delaware,

1:28:09I've had several encounters with police

1:28:12officers, but the only one y'all don't

1:28:14want to say this, you don't want to hear

1:28:16it, but it's the truth.

1:28:18No, my time is not up, sir. Or I'll talk

1:28:20without a mic. So every white police

1:28:24officer I that's not true here

1:28:42because it starts in elementary school.

1:28:46It starts when our young boys are not

1:28:49reading at the right level.

1:28:52In second grade, teachers young

1:28:58man each year as they go up to school,

1:29:03they get

1:29:05more turn

1:29:0814 or 15.

1:29:16Y'all are ignoring that issue.

1:29:22Mic check. Mic check.

1:29:25>> Y.

1:29:29>> Mic check.

1:29:32We got to ground ourselves, man. We got

1:29:34to ground ourselves, man.

1:29:40Let's bring it back in. What's up with

1:29:43Mike? What's up my mic?

1:29:49Mic check.

1:29:52>> I got it.

1:29:54>> Mic check.

1:30:08>> Mic check.

1:30:11There you go.

1:30:18Hey, listen up, man. Listen up. Y'all

1:30:21know who I am in this city.

1:30:25Hey yo, in the back.

1:30:27I got it. I ain't even two minutes with

1:30:29it. So, we going to GET RIGHT INTO IT.

1:30:31LISTEN up

1:30:33in the back.

1:30:37Hey yo. HEY YO, GIVE ME SOME RESPECT.

1:30:39LISTEN UP IN THE BACK. LET'S MAKE THIS

1:30:41CLEAR. LET ME SHOW Y'ALL A MIRROR RIGHT

1:30:43QUICK. LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT A MIRROR

1:30:44LOOK LIKE. Let me show you what a mirror

1:30:47look like. Let me show you what a mirror

1:30:49look like.

1:30:51LET IT BE KNOWN. PUT THIS ON RECORD. PUT

1:30:54THIS ON RECORD REAL QUICK. DID A NONE OF

1:30:56THESE PEOPLE ON THIS PANEL DOING THE

1:30:59SHOOTING. PUT THAT ON RECORD. PUT THAT

1:31:02ON RECORD. THESE PEOPLE WORK DOWNTOWN.

1:31:04THEY'RE NOT THE ONES DOING THE SHOOTING.

1:31:06LET'S LOOK IN THE MIRROR REAL QUICK.

1:31:09IT'S OUR BABIES THAT'S OUT THERE GOING

1:31:12HAM.

1:31:14>> SO, AS PARENTS,

1:31:16WE GOT TO GET IN FRONT OF IT. NOW,

1:31:18HERE'S MY SOLUTION. PUT THIS ON RECORD

1:31:20REAL QUICK. NONE OF THESE PEOPLE ON THIS

1:31:23PANEL ARE DOING THE SHOOTING. WE'RE

1:31:26GOING TO SWITCH THE FOCUS BACK WHERE IT

1:31:28BELONGS. IT STARTS IN THE HOME, THEN IT

1:31:32GOES TO THE SCHOOL, THEN THE STREETS. AS

1:31:35PARENTS, WE GOT TO GET A FIRMER GRIP.

1:31:37NOW, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IF YOU ARE A

1:31:40PARENT, IF YOU ARE A PARENT THAT'S

1:31:42STRUGGLING AND NEED RESOURCES, NOW WOULD

1:31:45BE THE TIME TO SPEAK UP ABOUT THAT. BUT

1:31:47HERE'S MY SOLUTION. I'm at solution. 30

1:31:51SECONDS. I'M AT SOLUTION.

1:31:54The people WHO ARE IN ATTENDANCE. I'M

1:31:58GOING TO BE G-CHECKING some y'all on the

1:31:59WAY OUT THE DOOR. I KNOW WHO TALKING

1:32:01WHILE I'M TALKING.

1:32:03THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE PASSION TO DO

1:32:06THE WORK, I'M AT SOLUTIONS. THE PEOPLE

1:32:10WHO HAVE THE PASSION to do the work NEED

1:32:13TO GET HOOKED UP WITH THE RESOURCES. And

1:32:16that MEANS IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE

1:32:18STRUCTURE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR

1:32:20NONPROFIT, IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR

1:32:21BUSINESS, THOSE ARE THE BARRIERS INTO

1:32:24DOING THE WORK. AND THANK YOU. AND I'M

1:32:26THOMAS AND Y'ALL KNOW WHO I AM. AND MY

1:32:29BOOK IS FOR SALE. Anyone

1:32:57hear me? Good. Did y'all hear me?

1:33:07Testing, testing,

1:33:13>> testing, testing.

1:33:15>> Hey, hold on. Let me reset the time.

1:33:21>> Okay, can y'all hear me good? Y'all can

1:33:23hear me now. Everybody up here on the

1:33:24panel, can you hear me? Can you get him?

1:33:27the man with his head down. Can you tap

1:33:29him on the shoulder?

1:33:33All right. I appreciate y'all for coming

1:33:35out here tonight. I represent um

1:33:38concerned Wilmington residents and a lot

1:33:40of the statements I'm about to make and

1:33:41the questions that I'm going to ask

1:33:42y'all are echoed by them. Like we got a

1:33:45dozen, we got a couple dozen and a host

1:33:48of other individuals that really feel

1:33:49what I'm about to say and the questions

1:33:51I'm asking. So, uh, Mayor Carney and,

1:33:54uh, Chief,

1:33:56are the Wington Police Department and

1:33:58other elected individuals going to be

1:33:59held accountable for their negligence

1:34:01for the criminal wrongdoing and the

1:34:03malfeascence that has been exhibited

1:34:05within the past year? I'm talking about

1:34:07individuals from Chenade Darby and her

1:34:08transitional housing. I'm talking about

1:34:11um, Wilington police officers who are

1:34:13harassing Wington residents, who are uh,

1:34:16shooting Wilton residents. Uh, are we

1:34:18going to hold any of them people

1:34:19accountable? I would like to use my two

1:34:21minutes to get a response real quick.

1:34:24Y'all too,

1:34:25>> there is a

1:34:26>> can't hear you.

1:34:27>> There's a process in place. We need to

1:34:28follow complaint and follow up and hope

1:34:31and investigate.

1:34:32>> I appreciate that quick response. So,

1:34:33I'd like to say real quick to that. I

1:34:35have gotten no help, no support, no

1:34:38answers. When I say negligence within

1:34:40the highest form, I'm saying I've

1:34:42reached out to a lot of y'all. I know

1:34:44I'm pretty sure y'all know me. I've

1:34:46attended your your programs uh for

1:34:48recetivism reduction.

1:34:52I'm I've been out on bail too many times

1:34:53this year for interactions with a lot of

1:34:55these people. And so I'm I'm I'm

1:34:57serious. Like it's not working. You say

1:34:59that they're being held accountable and

1:35:00there's a system in place, but it's not

1:35:02working. And like the city, we the

1:35:05people behind me, we want to know what

1:35:07y'all are actively doing because you

1:35:09hold us accountable in this city when we

1:35:11do something criminal.

1:35:14Can we do the same to y'all? Will you be

1:35:16starting up a uh research group? Will

1:35:19you be starting up a independent uh uh

1:35:23uh uh

1:35:26to your question, Police Accountability

1:35:27Board, they meet monthly. I make sure

1:35:29you get

1:35:30the Cook.

1:35:32>> All right, sir.

1:35:34>> Mr. Dunn, two minutes, sir.

1:35:38>> My name is Tony Dunn. I first want to

1:35:41publicly say to this brother here, I'm

1:35:45sorry, brother, for what me and my

1:35:48family and your family had to go through

1:35:50in our community BECAUSE WE HAVE

1:35:53PROBLEMS with mental health.

1:35:56MENTAL HEALTH IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM, MR.

1:35:58MAYOR.

1:36:00Very serious. I came to you. I did A

1:36:03STRATEGIC PROPOSAL. YOU NEVER ANSWERED

1:36:06ME. I think only one person on your on

1:36:09your committee answered.

1:36:12I want to know what are you going to do

1:36:13now THAT Y'ALL MADE A DECISION WITH THE

1:36:17PLUMBER CENTER THAT WAS A VITAL PIECE OF

1:36:20OF property that we needed in our

1:36:23community. I TALKED TO SOMEBODY IN YOUR

1:36:26OFFICE AND THEY SAID THAT THERE'S $80

1:36:28MILLION for lowincome housing.

1:36:32Well, the plumber center could be used

1:36:35for a resource, a hub for all THE

1:36:39PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. HOMELESSNESS,

1:36:43VIOLENCE,

1:36:44mental health,

1:36:46all of that we we have in our community,

1:36:49but can't use it because the building

1:36:51has been given to Wilmington Housing

1:36:53Authorities. We need to know what's

1:36:55going on BECAUSE Y'ALL WANT TO HOLD US

1:36:58ACCOUNTABLE, BUT Y'ALL GOT TO BE

1:37:00ACCOUNTABLE, TOO.

1:37:03I CAME TO YOUR OFFICE. I DID A COMPLAINT

1:37:05WITH YOUR OFFICE.

1:37:07Nothing happened. Nothing happened. I'M

1:37:10STILL MISSING ANOTHER SON behind the

1:37:13violence.

1:37:15WE AIN'T GOING TO TAKE OUR POSITION. WE

1:37:17GOING TO DO WHAT WE SUPPOSED TO DO AS

1:37:18MEN.

1:37:20BUT WE NEED Y'ALL TO BE ACCOUNTABLE AS

1:37:22WELL.

1:37:23GIVE US THE RESOURCES WE NEED. THAT'S

1:37:26THE PROBLEM. THE RESOURCES YOU SEE AND

1:37:29YOU GIVING US, THEY'RE NOT REACHING POOR

1:37:31people and we still having THE SAME

1:37:33PROBLEM. HELP US. HELP YOU help us.

1:37:42>> I'm a longterm Delawarian. That's all I

1:37:45say. But I have two questions. One for

1:37:48Wington Housing Authority. I would like

1:37:51to know how long is the normal waiting

1:37:54period time. Um, as long as you updating

1:37:58your information and everything. Um, cuz

1:38:02I've been on there for about eight years

1:38:05now and I've been updating my

1:38:06application,

1:38:08keeping the job, doing what I'm supposed

1:38:10to do when I I don't hear anything.

1:38:12There is no

1:38:16>> there is no normal time is there's lots

1:38:19of factors that are is this one

1:38:22>> oh yeah let's go there's lots of factors

1:38:24that are involved

1:38:25>> uh when you give the mic up give me your

1:38:27contact information and I'll

1:38:31>> respond someone that I called told me

1:38:33that you don't normally be on there more

1:38:35than 10 years before they call you next

1:38:38question cuz 2 minutes is not that

1:38:42GBI. If I have a child that I just

1:38:46signed up and he's fearful for his life

1:38:49because of the things that's going on

1:38:51out here in the street, is there any way

1:38:53you can help us?

1:38:57>> Absolutely. You said your son was just

1:38:58signed up for GVI.

1:38:59>> Well, if your son was just signed up for

1:39:01CGVI, he uh should have been assigned a

1:39:04case manager. when they when he goes in

1:39:06to see his case manager, they're going

1:39:08to do an assessment and off that

1:39:09assessment, they're going to uh create a

1:39:11a individual service plan. That

1:39:13individual service plan will be

1:39:15basically all the things that he needs.

1:39:16We'll outline all the various things

1:39:18that we need and the various steps that

1:39:20we're going to take in order to um help

1:39:21and support him. So, if he's scared

1:39:24right now, um that's a conversation

1:39:26we'll have with him. If there are safety

1:39:27concerns, we can have that with him, you

1:39:29case manager, and then from there, we'll

1:39:31come up with a plan to alleviate those

1:39:33uh safety issues. even if it, you know,

1:39:35if it could come down to, you know, relo

1:39:37uh temporary relocation, permanent

1:39:39relocation, we do housing vouchers and

1:39:40things of that nature. So, there are

1:39:41opportunities and there are services

1:39:43that we can offer for that. Um, give me

1:39:45your um your name and your uh your

1:39:46number and we'll I'll make sure somebody

1:39:48touches basically.

1:39:50>> Oh, actually, you know what, ma'am?

1:39:53>> This young lady right here,

1:39:55>> that's that's one of my team supervisors

1:39:58and our housing manager. She'll

1:39:59definitely be able to help you out.

1:40:00>> She works for them. She works for me.

1:40:02Yes, sir. She's

1:40:04not a good person.

1:40:08>> Hi, I am I am Gloria Benson. I am

1:40:12>> I'm Gloria Benson. I am a supervisor for

1:40:14GBI.

1:40:16Um I am also the aunt of Kadir Skinner.

1:40:20And of course

1:40:22I came I came up here because I was

1:40:24going to ask a question about something

1:40:26else. But I will say that I am really

1:40:30kind of disappointed when Rail wasn't

1:40:32acknowledged. Um,

1:40:36however,

1:40:38the one thing that did happen that I

1:40:41expected to happen is for him to do what

1:40:43he did, and that was to reach out and

1:40:46hug Rail. And I know at this table

1:40:50between Ray and Jabar that I and and and

1:40:55Corey or whatever I'm I'm I do WHAT WHAT

1:41:00JAVAR WAS TALKING ABOUT WHERE THEY HIT

1:41:01THE STREET. My team hits the street

1:41:03states statewide. That's what I do. We

1:41:06we we send them out right after a

1:41:08shooting. My question my original

1:41:10question was where's somebody from

1:41:13education up here?

1:41:16Because that is a part of the problem.

1:41:18Everybody is talking about the parents,

1:41:20BUT WE GOT TO SEND our kids to school.

1:41:22They got to send them to school. They

1:41:23damned if they do and they damned if

1:41:25they don't. And then where is the

1:41:27truency accountability

1:41:31because I'm I'm dealing with that.

1:41:32That's real with me dealing with the

1:41:35youth life coaches with GBI. That's

1:41:37real.

1:41:38And that was that was my question. As

1:41:41far as um the other things, I'm going to

1:41:44let that play out. as far as with my

1:41:47family, but um as far Yeah.

1:41:50>> Yeah. So, we have somebody on staff that

1:41:52does education.

1:41:54He's not here tonight, unfortunately,

1:41:56but you're right on the money. We do in

1:41:58this out of this facility during the

1:42:01summertime have a reading assist program

1:42:03as we deal with the North Market Street

1:42:05PAL. So, really important as somebody

1:42:08had asked earlier tonight that we need

1:42:10to make sure that our second graders and

1:42:12third graders can read. and uh that's a

1:42:15focus of ours. We're the city doesn't

1:42:20actively run schools, but we can

1:42:22advocate with the Wilmington Learning

1:42:25Collaborative. That was something was

1:42:26set up a few years ago to try to get uh

1:42:29the support for the children that we

1:42:30they need.

1:42:33>> All right, quickly remember we open this

1:42:35gym up to kids after this. So, we're

1:42:37going to I hate to do this. We're going

1:42:39to cut it to one minute. I'm sorry. one

1:42:41minute comment question if you can do it

1:42:43please. We want to make sure we get our

1:42:45children in here after this.

1:42:49>> Good evening. My name is Elijah Druit

1:42:52and uh my organization is called Cat

1:42:54Kindness Heals All Things and I'm here

1:42:57to make an observation of what's

1:43:00happening right now in the city of

1:43:03Wilmington because it's happening right

1:43:04now in this room and it's a fracture. We

1:43:07are all fractured. Nobody's here hearing

1:43:10each other because everyone's talking in

1:43:12their own silos because everybody has

1:43:14their own voice that wants to be heard.

1:43:17Everybody is talking about their own

1:43:18individual pain. Although we're supposed

1:43:21to be here for one reason, and that's to

1:43:23address the violence that's happening in

1:43:26the city overall. Now, I just want to be

1:43:29clear. I'm not from Wilmington. I chose

1:43:33to live here and I'll be 10 years next

1:43:35month and I want to see this city thrive

1:43:39because I believe it is. But we have to

1:43:41come together if we're want to if we

1:43:43want to heal and we need to be able to

1:43:45hear each other in order to do that.

1:43:47We're talking at each other versus

1:43:49talking to each other. And that's the

1:43:52problem. So, I can't hear you because I

1:43:55can't over I can't not hear what I'm

1:43:57saying because I want to talk at you

1:43:59because I want results from you before

1:44:01you can even give them to me. But

1:44:03sometimes maybe the time is a little bit

1:44:06slow. So, you should come out and say

1:44:07something just to address that so it can

1:44:10calm down and settle down and we know

1:44:12that there's progress moving. We need to

1:44:14be able to hear each other and we're not

1:44:17doing that. So,

1:44:26How y'all doing? My name is Joey Dixon.

1:44:28I am a parent, child, and community

1:44:30advocate here in Wilmington.

1:44:33Um, first of all, thank you, Bishop

1:44:35Cook, Mr. Fitzgerald, and Corey for

1:44:37y'all speeches cuz anything other than

1:44:39that, honestly, was word salad. In the

1:44:41communities we come from, we don't eat

1:44:42that. Um, my question is for city

1:44:45council because I done been to way too

1:44:47many town halls to know his care level

1:44:49is not there and I'm just being honest.

1:44:52My question is for city council. Bishop

1:44:54came up with the solutions.

1:44:57>> Solutions is nothing without action.

1:45:01When do we start? Where do we start? Who

1:45:03else do we start with? And I say who

1:45:05else cuz I am a hill. Um, and how and

1:45:10what part do y'all plan on playing in

1:45:11it?

1:45:23Thank you, Daniel.

1:45:25>> Good evening. I do have a question. Um,

1:45:27Mayor,

1:45:29good evening. I do have a question.

1:45:31Mayor, um given the recent um shootings

1:45:35that have happened within the last week,

1:45:38um Chief Compost, could you please share

1:45:40information with us about some of the

1:45:42characteristics

1:45:44of these shootings and what is it that

1:45:46is important for us to know as a

1:45:48community to get ahead of this? What are

1:45:51those

1:45:53the the put that line that bridges

1:45:55what's happening in the gangs and what's

1:45:58happening on the street that can help us

1:46:00to intervene? Really looking for

1:46:02solutions.

1:46:05>> Yeah. Really quickly, uh some of the

1:46:10I I could tell you right here, some of

1:46:11the things that we're seeing is school

1:46:12violence. obviously young men and and

1:46:14women in some cases going back and forth

1:46:16and it's like targeted focus and then

1:46:19you have the retaliation we hadn't a

1:46:21week and a half ago that's exactly what

1:46:23happened

1:46:25>> arguments

1:46:26>> based on arguments based on this thing

1:46:28based on whatever it may be um among

1:46:31these two groups sometimes it's a social

1:46:33media uh something on social media where

1:46:35someone says something and then they get

1:46:37they feel disrespected and then they

1:46:39feel the pressure to respond because

1:46:41their peers are telling them you got to

1:46:42do something about that. And that's the

1:46:44unfortunate part is that social media is

1:46:47is fueling some of this, right? Because

1:46:50they it used to be where we didn't have

1:46:52that social media, but now someone from

1:46:54from there bear can diss someone from

1:46:55Moment and it's on social media and it's

1:46:58and and it's going back and forth and

1:47:00that's creating a lot of it as well. And

1:47:01I think as parents, they need to get

1:47:04more involved and watch the social media

1:47:06and check someone's bedroom to see if

1:47:08they have a handgun that they're not

1:47:09supposed to have. That involvement is

1:47:12critical and I think that's one of the

1:47:14things that hope to work with uh DBI and

1:47:16John Cook as well director Cook that we

1:47:18need to spread this message. We need

1:47:20more parents involved in some of these

1:47:21kids that we know have a high propensity

1:47:24to be involved in this type of activity.

1:47:35You need to provide

1:47:54it

1:47:56to

1:48:02something.

1:48:16Thank you, Miss Tucker.

1:48:22>> Hello. My name is Jordan. I didn't

1:48:24really come up here to ask any

1:48:26questions. I really came up here to make

1:48:29a statement. Um, the first thing I'm

1:48:31going to start with is Miss McCoy. Miss

1:48:33McCoy, I've been waiting to see you, but

1:48:36today you are the only woman sitting

1:48:38here still today. And it's still not

1:48:40even 7 o'clock. So, I'm going to give

1:48:42you your flowers for today.

1:48:45You another day. Um, for the people

1:48:49here, these people will not fight for

1:48:52us. They're not going to fight for our

1:48:54kids. We going to come up here to 20

1:48:56different meetings asking these people

1:48:58all these questions. What they going to

1:49:00do for our youth? are not going to do

1:49:01nothing. Y'all going to have to do it.

1:49:03Like they said, it start from home. It

1:49:05does. But it's a system that it started

1:49:07with. It's a system that it started

1:49:09with. Our kids are not flourishing not

1:49:11only because of home, but because of

1:49:13this broken system. This broken system.

1:49:16I said I didn't have no questions, but I

1:49:17do. I have one. Y'all are black men.

1:49:20It's hard for y'all more than anyone.

1:49:22How can y'all sit here at this panel and

1:49:25allow this to happen? Y'all are not

1:49:27doing nothing. Not only for our youth,

1:49:29but for our older people as well. I

1:49:32didn't get your name, but I know you're

1:49:34a city of Wington housing and

1:49:35everything, right? Yes.

1:49:38Nothing. You are failing the elders.

1:49:42They can't even breathe in the mall in

1:49:44these apartments that they have. THEY'RE

1:49:45PROTESTING AND Y'ALL, NOBODY IN THE CITY

1:49:48OR WINGTON, NOBODY'S THERE FOR THESE

1:49:50PEOPLE, FOR THE YOUTH, for these elders,

1:49:52for nobody. AND Y'ALL SITTING HERE

1:49:54acting like Y'ALL GOT WHAT IT TAKES FOR

1:49:55THE YOUTH, BUT Y'ALL DON'T. YOU'RE NOT

1:49:57IN the city. Y'all are not in these

1:49:59streets. Y'ALL DON'T KNOW THESE KIDS.

1:50:00Y'ALL DON'T KNOW WHAT they need TO BE

1:50:02PROTECTED FROM AT ALL. SO, I DON'T WANT

1:50:05TO HEAR IT. IF Y'ALL REALLY WANT CHANGE,

1:50:07Y'ALL GOING TO HAVE TO GET UP IN THESE

1:50:08STREETS AND SHOW US WHAT Y'ALL WANT

1:50:09CHANGE. WE WANT THE CHANGE. BUT DO

1:50:11Y'ALL? WE PUT Y'ALL HERE. Y'ALL WORKED

1:50:14IT [screaming] FOR US, NOT FOR

1:50:15YOURSELVES. AND I DON'T THINK Y'ALL

1:50:17UNDERSTAND THAT. AND HONESTLY, I'M

1:50:18TIRED. I HAD PLANS TO COME UP HERE AND

1:50:20CUSS EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE OF Y'ALL OUT.

1:50:23But I'm better than that. I'm better

1:50:25than that. And I'm not A PRODUCT OF MY

1:50:27ENVIRONMENT. And neither will these kids

1:50:28if it's up to me. Y'all have the day

1:50:30y'all deserve.

1:50:34Dan Daniel. Daniel. Can I can I address

1:50:37can I address Ma'am?

1:50:40Young lady,

1:50:42I just want to say thank you so much for

1:50:44giving me my flowers. But what you need

1:50:46to know is that not only I'm a council

1:50:48person, but I'm also a mother who lives

1:50:51here within the city of Wilmington. I'm

1:50:54on the public sa not only am I on the

1:50:55public safety committee, I'm the public

1:50:57safety chair. And it was important for

1:50:59me to be here because I too am suffering

1:51:03from a child who went who suffered

1:51:05violence. If anybody didn't see me on

1:51:08social media, I was making a fuss about

1:51:11our justice system after my son got

1:51:13blown up with a firework and the young

1:51:15man only got one year at Ferris. And I'm

1:51:19like, and he almost died. So, please

1:51:21understand that I'm here too to get

1:51:24answers that I want to make certain that

1:51:26the answers that with the questions that

1:51:28are a that are asked here, we figure out

1:51:30how best to address them that I'm going

1:51:33to be working with these people here at

1:51:35this table to figure out what type of

1:51:37ordinances that need to happen.

1:51:40>> Yes. Okay. All right. I'm sorry. I said

1:51:42I just want to make certain that people

1:51:43understand that we're here for a reason

1:51:45and that we're not going to it's not

1:51:46going to fall on deaf ears. I just had

1:51:49to address it.

1:51:51My name is Margaret Evans.

1:51:56My name is Margaret Evans. I've lived in

1:51:58Wilmington, Delaware for 60 years. You

1:52:01still can't hear me?

1:52:03>> My little voice. I said, "My name is

1:52:05Margaret Evans. I've lived in

1:52:06Wilmington, Delaware for 60 years. I've

1:52:08watched the city change. I'm a retired

1:52:11firefighter. My question is this. Does

1:52:14the fire department and the police

1:52:16department have a recruiting process for

1:52:19the inner city? Because I've seen people

1:52:21come out of the city and then they sit

1:52:23around and talk bad about the city.

1:52:25Therefore, they talk bad about

1:52:27conversation. So, you need to recruit

1:52:29within the best and I hope that that

1:52:32happens. For the first for the most

1:52:34part, the city runs well no matter what

1:52:36they're saying.

1:52:37>> I know it does.

1:52:38>> You know, and one other issue directed

1:52:41to you, sir. They're growing the city,

1:52:44but I've seen them take jobs out of the

1:52:46city. And everywhere I go, there's a

1:52:48$5,000 signing bonus. There's no jobs in

1:52:52the city, so they're standing around on

1:52:54the corners.

1:52:57I do apologize, but we have to open the

1:52:59gym back up. If you have other comments

1:53:01or questions, please see us afterwards.