2026-11-03 - City Council Meeting

00:10All

00:29right. Don't try to look at us.

00:32>> Well, I thought it was next week. All

00:34right. Please bow on prayer. Thank you.

00:37Dear heavenly father, thank you so much

00:39for being with us here today. God, we

00:41know that today is a day that um that

00:45needs special blessings and special

00:48governance. God, I ask that you be with

00:50each candidate tonight. I ask that you

00:53be with everyone inside this room that

00:55we all make great decisions and good

00:57choices in our neighborhoods and our

00:58communities. God, I ask that you send a

01:01special a prayer up tonight. I'm sending

01:03a special prayer for all nine of us and

01:05the mayor that we lead, guide, direct

01:07this city every single day to the best

01:11of our ability and that we know that we

01:13listen to the community. We listen to

01:15their voices and we base decisions on

01:18what is needed in each area. God, I ask

01:22that you be with each and every one of

01:23us tonight as we travel home. Keep us

01:26safe. keep our public safety um workers

01:30in your hands each and every day as they

01:33go out to work to keep us safe and out

01:37of harm's way. God, I ask that you lead,

01:40guide us, and direct us throughout the

01:42week and every single day. Amen.

01:44>> Stand for the pledge.

01:46>> Before we do the pledge, I'd just like

01:47to have a moment of silence silence for

01:49Kim Fails, the former city attorney who

01:51passed away uh on yesterday. A moment of

01:54silence, please.

02:05Thank you. Please join me in the pledge.

02:09>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

02:12United States of America and to the

02:15republic for which it stands, one nation

02:18under God, indivisible, with liberty and

02:22justice for all.

02:30Thank you, Miss Beard, for that prayer.

02:32Thank you, uh, citizen of Montgomery,

02:34for your participation in the pledge of

02:35allegiance.

02:36>> Um, and a moment of silence. So,

02:38attorney Fels. Uh, at this time, I need

02:41approval for the October 2020 26 work

02:44session, minutes.

02:47>> Move to adopt.

02:48>> Have a motion to adopt. All in favor,

02:49please raise your hand.

02:52>> Unanimous. Need a move for approval for

02:54the October 2020 26 regular council

02:57meeting minutes.

02:58>> Move to adopt.

02:59>> Have a motion to adopt. All in favor,

03:00please raise your hand.

03:02>> Unanimous.

03:04>> Need approval for the October 2021 2026

03:07work session meeting minutes.

03:09>> Move to adopt.

03:10>> All in favor, please say I.

03:12>> I.

03:14>> Please raise your hand. Y'all listening

03:16tonight, man. I like that eight with

03:18district.

03:21All right, Mr. Mayor.

03:27Two minutes

03:29>> already

03:30up

03:32fast.

03:33>> Well, he did the dug it late and night.

03:35>> Good evening. Uh members of the council

03:37and our residents uh joining us here in

03:40person and virtually. Um thank you for

03:42your work here in the city. Um, we're

03:46going to highlight some of our

03:47partnerships and some of the things

03:48you've been doing to help us move

03:49forward and some of the things we're

03:50trying to do to respond to your concerns

03:52that you shared uh either with your

03:54council member or directly uh with the

03:56mayor's office. Um, we certainly want to

03:59highlight some of the ways that we are

04:01strengthening uh public safety in a

04:03holistic uh manner, investing in

04:05infrastructure, supporting families, and

04:07honoring our history uh improving how we

04:10communicate with those that we serve.

04:12But first, we want to highlight today is

04:14election day. Uh the polls will close at

04:167 p.m. And so, uh we just want everyone

04:20to go out and exercise their right to

04:22vote. Uh there's still time to get to

04:24your polling place. Uh if you have not

04:27made it and if you go to the wrong

04:29place, you make sure you cast a

04:31provisional ballot uh so you can get

04:34that squared away um within the time

04:37that it's after today's election date.

04:40But the main thing is we want you to

04:41participate in this democracy and

04:43participate uh in setting the course for

04:47local offices from school board to

04:50judges uh to state offices like state

04:52representative and constitutional

04:54offices as well as those federal offices

04:57uh as well senator in congress and I

05:00failed to mention governor uh as well.

05:02So, just as civic participation

05:04strengthens our democracy, cooperation

05:07among public agencies strengthens our

05:09ability to serve and protect our

05:11community. Yesterday, we announced a new

05:14partnership between the city of

05:15Montgomery and the McGomery County

05:17Sheriff's Office to strengthen traffic

05:19crash response time and make the best

05:22possible use of our public safety

05:24resources. I want to thank Sheriff Derek

05:26Cunningham, Chief Grey Boys,

05:28Commissioner Conra Moore Ziggler, and

05:31their teams for their collaboration,

05:33leadership, and shared commitment to

05:35serving Montgomery residents. Under this

05:38agreement, three sheriff's office

05:40deputies trained in accident

05:41investigations will assist with

05:44qualifying traffic crashes within the

05:46Montgomery city limits during peak

05:49hours. These deputies will respond to

05:51crashes involving personal use vehicles

05:53that result in no injuries or only minor

05:56injuries. The McGomery Police Department

05:58will continue to handle crashes

06:00involving commercial vehicles, serious

06:03injuries, fatalities, and incidents

06:05requiring specialized resources or

06:07investigations.

06:09This partnership will improve service to

06:12motorists while giving McGomery Police

06:14Department officers greater flexibility

06:16to respond to other public safety needs

06:19throughout our city. It reflects the

06:21kind of practical, resultsoriented

06:23collaboration our residents expect from

06:25their government. By working together,

06:28we can use our available resources more

06:30effectively and provide faster, more

06:32responsive service to the people of

06:34Montgomery. We're also making long-term

06:37investments that will help prevent

06:38crashes and improve safety on our

06:41roadways.

06:44I'm proud to announce that the city of

06:46Montgomery has been awarded 13.4 million

06:50in federal funding through the US

06:51Department of Transportation Safe

06:53Streets

06:56safe streets and roads for all program.

06:58This investment will support phase one

07:00of our interstate lighting modernization

07:03initiative, a 16.8 8 million project

07:06focused on improving safety, visibility,

07:09and reliability along I65 and I 85. The

07:15project will replace 741 aging light

07:18fixtures with more than 1,000 energy

07:20efficient LED lights, restore safe

07:23maintenance access, and introduce

07:25wireless outage monitoring technology

07:28along key interstate corridors,

07:30including the I65 and I 85 interchange.

07:34Engineering assessments found much of

07:37Montgomery's interstate lighting

07:39infrastructure has exceeded its service

07:41life, contributing to outages and

07:44maintenance challenges. Because these

07:46corridors are part of a high injury

07:48roadway network, this project represents

07:51an important investment in public

07:53safety. This award also advances our

07:55long-term infrastructure strategy and

07:58positions Montgomery for future

08:00improvements. We are not simply

08:02upgrading lights. We are creating safer

08:04roadways and building a stronger

08:06transportation network for residents,

08:08visitors, and businesses. And while

08:11investments in infrastructure strengthen

08:12our city, caring for people strengthens

08:15our community.

08:17The Montgomery Care's Hope and Healing

08:19Drive continues as our communitywide

08:22effort to support survivors of domestic

08:24violence and families in need. Thanks to

08:27the generosity of city employees,

08:29residents, businesses, and community

08:31partners, donations are being collected

08:33to help provide hope, healing, and

08:35essential resources to local families to

08:38give more members of our community an

08:40opportunity to participate. We have

08:42extended the campaign through November

08:4411th. We encourage everyone to continue

08:47donating personal care and hygiene

08:49items, including soap, shampoo,

08:52deodorant, toothpaste, feminine hygiene

08:55products, tissues, and other everyday

08:58necessities. Donation boxes are

09:00available at businesses and locations

09:02throughout Montgomery. For donation

09:05locations, a complete list of needed

09:07items, and additional information,

09:09please visit mgmcares.info.

09:13That same spirit of generosity will

09:15continue as we approach Thanksgiving and

09:18work to ensure more Montgomery families

09:20can share a warm holiday meal.

09:23I am proud to partner with Walmart for

09:26the second annual Mayor Steven El Reed

09:28turkey giveaway on Saturday, November

09:30the 21st, 2026, beginning at 7 a.m. at

09:34the Walmart Super Center on Atlanta

09:36Highway. Building on the success of last

09:39year's inaugural event, this initiative

09:41reflects our continued commitment to

09:43supporting Montgomery families during

09:45the holiday season.

09:47Thanks to Walmart's generous

09:48sponsorship, free turkeys will be

09:50distributed on a first come, first serve

09:53basis with one turkey per vehicle while

09:55supplies last. Several local businesses

09:58will also provide additional gifts for

10:01participating families. I encourage

10:03residents to arrive early and remain in

10:05their vehicles as we work together to

10:08make the distribution safe, efficient,

10:10and welcoming. Thanksgiving is about

10:13gratitude, community, and sharing what

10:15we have with others. Through this

10:17partnership, we hope to help more

10:19Montgomery families enjoy a warm and

10:21meaningful meal together.

10:25Now, as McGomery prepares to commemorate

10:28the 50 years under the mayor council,

10:29former government, residents are invited

10:31to our public screening of the people's

10:34council on November 15th, 2026 at 2 p.m.

10:38at the Capri Theater. This documentary

10:40explores the people, events, and

10:42decisions that reshape local governance

10:44and expanded representation in our

10:47capital city. Our city council has

10:49gotten a private screening, but we want

10:52to make this open to the public.

10:54Admission is free, but registration is

10:56required. The event will include a first

10:59look at the director's cut, followed by

11:01a community conversation about

11:02Montgomery's history and our continued

11:04path forward. Understanding our past

11:08helps us appreciate how far we have come

11:10while reminding us of the work that

11:12remains. For more information, please

11:15visit montgomeryal.gov.

11:18Montgomery's Veterans Day celebration

11:20will take place on Saturday, November

11:2214th, 2026 at its new location, 8105

11:27Veterans Way in Chantelli Parkway. The

11:30event features a Veterans Day parade at

11:3210:00 a.m., a Veterans Resource Fair

11:34from 11:00 a.m. to 1 p.m., and a

11:36Veterans Day ceremony at 1:00 p.m.

11:40Residents are encouraged to attend,

11:42participate, and volunteer in honoring

11:44those who served our nation. For

11:46details, please visit www.m

11:49montgomerya.gov

11:52veterans.

11:54Now, I'm also pleased to announce a new

11:56agreement between the city of Montgomery

11:58and Stamp Idea Group LLC, a Montgomery

12:01based fullervice advertising,

12:03interactive, and media agency. Through

12:05this partnership, we will strengthen the

12:07city's strategic marketing and

12:09communications efforts, expand public

12:11engagement, and increase awareness of

12:13Montgomery's programs, initiatives,

12:16services, and achievements. Effective

12:18communication is essential to effective

12:20government. Residents should be able to

12:22clearly understand what their city is

12:24doing, how public programs affect them,

12:27and where they can find the services and

12:28information they need. This agreement

12:31will support innovative, resultsdriven

12:33outreach and creative communications

12:36planning. It will also help tell

12:38Montgomery story with greater clarity,

12:40consistency, and impact

12:44from strengthening public safety and

12:46modernizing infrastructure to supporting

12:48families and preserving our history and

12:50improving public communication. We are

12:52continuing to move Montgomery forward.

12:54Together, we are building a Montgomery

12:56that is stronger, safer, more connected,

12:59and more vibrant for all. Thank you and

13:01good evening. And that concludes my

13:03message, Mr. President.

13:04>> Thank you. Thank you, mayor. Any

13:06questions for the mayor?

13:08All right. No questions. Thank you. Any

13:12special committee to report?

13:16No special committee report. All right,

13:20Madam Clerk. Item one,

13:23>> Mr. President. Item 1 through nine is

13:25the council's consent agenda.

13:28>> Right. Any question?

13:31>> No discussion. Just motion.

13:33>> Motion to adopt.

13:36>> Have a motion to adopt. All in favor,

13:37please raise your hand.

13:42>> I got a question.

13:44>> Mr. Grimes.

13:45>> No question. We just have to pull the

13:46item.

13:47>> Yeah. You just have to pull the one that

13:49you have.

13:49>> Pull it out, do the vote, and then

13:51discuss afterwards. Which one do you

13:53want to pull?

13:54>> Pull out number one.

13:57>> Pull number one.

14:00>> What's the issue with with number one?

14:01>> Okay, we've got to get the vote on the

14:03rest of them before they can discuss.

14:04>> All right, we can bring it back. Okay,

14:05we get a vote on the uh

14:07>> two through nine.

14:08>> Two through nine. All in favor, please

14:10raise your hand.

14:12>> Unanimous.

14:13>> All right.

14:14>> Now then,

14:15>> now Mr. Brown,

14:18>> I'd like to see expand the hours. Mayor,

14:21I don't have a problem with the system.

14:22It's is when I'm sitting here at 4:48,

14:25somebody's there's a wreck in front of

14:26Fraser. It It's We need to be able to

14:29expand it to 5 5:30 6 o'clock in the

14:31afternoons. If we're going to do this,

14:33let's do it where it's most productive

14:35and highest crash times.

14:38>> Well, do you I think we did it based on

14:40the highest crash times. We had the

14:41data, which is how we started the

14:42conversation

14:44>> um initially with the sheriff's

14:45department. The second thing you got to

14:47keep in mind is the sheriff has his own

14:48set of priorities and agendas. So for

14:50us, this was the best we could get uh

14:53and I don't mean that in a in a uh

14:56negative way. This was a a great

14:59opportunity for us um to work with them

15:03uh in those peak times of morning when

15:05we see most of the um auto automotive

15:09crashes taking place. So if you're in

15:12the afternoon after those peak hours,

15:14our folks will continue to do that work

15:17uh that they've all they've always been

15:18doing. But he's got his own set of um

15:23limitations in and streams too. Now,

15:25>> no. No. I I don't doubt it. But but I

15:27mayor, I don't I don't want you to

15:28argue, but we asked for those crash

15:30times and we hadn't gotten those. So, I

15:33I'd like to carry this over till we get

15:35those crash times.

15:37>> Okay,

15:38>> Mr. Grime, we've been talking about this

15:39for probably two and a half years. Um

15:42this is this isn't a new this isn't a

15:44new idea.

15:45>> So, so hold on. What I'm saying is

15:48you're getting over into to me the

15:50day-to-day of what the mayor's office

15:51does. And that is we negotiate the

15:54contracts based on our interactions with

15:56any partner, vendor, or whoever else it

15:58is. And so each each time that we push

16:02this back, which we've been pushing it

16:04back, then that slows us down from being

16:07able to accomplish what it is we're

16:10trying to accomplish. If we could have

16:11it 24 hours a day, we we do it 24 hours

16:14a day. If we could have it 12 hours a

16:16day, we would do it 12 hours a day. This

16:18was the agreement that we worked out

16:20between the police and the sheriff's

16:22department.

16:24>> But but mayor, we we hadn't seen any of

16:26those numbers and we we this hadn't been

16:28discussed a whole lot. This has not been

16:30a hot topic. We heard about it last

16:32week. We've been doing something. We had

16:34seen a whole lot of this.

16:36Maybe everybody else has, but I haven't

16:38seen it.

16:40>> Mayor Reed, [clears throat] I have one

16:41question on this. And I talked with

16:42Chief. he wasn't in the work session to

16:44talk with chief and um the staff about

16:48you know in item three where it says

16:49hours of operation and it says MPD shall

16:51remain responsible traffic accidents

16:53investigation within the city of

16:55Montgomery so I wanted to know what's

16:57the scope if we going to still remain

16:59responsible for those accidents you know

17:02what what's the sheriff's department

17:04going to be helping us with that during

17:05that time and couldn't answer that

17:07>> you want me to answer that

17:08>> yeah if you could

17:09>> yeah so what what we're asking the

17:12sheriff's officer do um is to help us

17:15during those peak times those non I mean

17:19every accident is serious but those

17:20non-fatal uh and commercial accidents

17:23which we have been getting for the last

17:24you all get some of the calls we get

17:26some of them as well where people are

17:28waiting for u an extended amount of time

17:31so as not to take them away from their

17:34priority as a sheriff's department what

17:35they have to do um these were the terms

17:39that we came up with uh in conjunction

17:41working with uh Sheriff Cunningham and

17:43his chief deputy uh on that issue. So,

17:47um we'll still provide the same thing

17:50that we've been doing in some of those

17:52other accidents. Uh but we kind of get

17:55additional support from three units that

17:58he'll have in those areas. Um that will

18:02help us be more efficient basically

18:04shorten the response time.

18:05>> Okay. um on on those non-fatal some of

18:08the lesser serious again I know every

18:10accident is serious but some of the the

18:12less serious uh accidents that aren't

18:15fatal either.

18:17>> Mr. President, I have one quick question

18:19please. Mayor M.

18:20>> Um with with the accidents um can you

18:24can you give me a clear understanding?

18:26Does every police car that's on patrol,

18:31do they have the ability to answer any

18:33accident that's in their area at that

18:35time? Are we just are we down to is that

18:38a traffic investigator that has to go

18:40there? Can you clarify that for me

18:42because I've just heard two different

18:44things and I just want to get

18:45clarification on that please.

18:47>> Yeah. What one is Chief here? Chief,

18:50come on. You guys play now.

18:52The short the short answer is is yes,

18:54but I'll let Chief get into the who's on

18:56patrol.

18:57>> Okay. All right. Thank you so much. I

18:58just want a clear understanding of that.

19:01While all officers are trained to handle

19:03accident calls and there are times we

19:05will utilize patrol officers to do so,

19:08the accident investigators, they are

19:09actually specializing in that and they

19:12do most of our traffic accident reports

19:14because while they handle those traffic

19:16accident reports that enables our patrol

19:19officers to answer the high priority

19:20calls such as, you know, people being

19:22shot or a burglary or something along

19:25those lines. Um the thing I said earlier

19:30which was really important is the extra

19:32units allow us to redistribute our units

19:34too in relation to that.

19:36>> Okay. So do we have one or two of those

19:39traffic investigators on each shift? Is

19:42that the way it works?

19:43>> Well, we run two shifts of accident

19:44investigators. Okay. So we do do that

19:46and they are working alongside our

19:48patrol officers but you know both of

19:51them really have somewhat different

19:53duties though they do work together for

19:55>> and I'm sure you get the same question.

19:57I've been in a car wreck and I saw four

19:59police officers passed me and nobody

20:00stopped and so that's what I get and I'm

20:03sure other councilmen do too. So I just

20:05wanted to get a clear

20:07>> Yeah. because and there's always the

20:08possibility that the reason those four

20:09units were passing those they might have

20:10been going to let's say a robbery in

20:12progress

20:13>> and they would have been patrol units.

20:15>> Right. Right. Okay. Thank you for that

20:16clarification.

20:17>> Chief, while you're up here, we want to

20:18address councelor Grimes questions that

20:20he had about the the times and the data

20:23as well.

20:24>> I I can definitely go back to get data

20:26and times directly to the high, you

20:28know, the high volume. But one thing to

20:30be aware of, there is high volume in the

20:32morning hours. So you have the your two

20:35high volume times, which is in the

20:36morning and the morning rush hours and

20:38then of course the afternoons. That's

20:40why earlier when I was talking, I was

20:42trying to explain that any units that we

20:45redistribute because they're there, we'd

20:47be able to redistribute them in the

20:49afternoons.

20:50>> Well, Chief, you you're going your

20:53traffic investigators are going to be

20:55working these wrecks anyway. You're

20:57going to try not to tie your patrol up.

20:59I I think anyway I my my deal is I'd

21:03like to see it move to 6:00 or 6:30 to

21:05about 5:30 to get us because right now

21:08when we flip the switch of the day it's

21:10dark it's people think the end of the

21:12world's coming and they drive like crazy

21:13and that's why we have more wrecks

21:15probably in the afternoon. So that

21:17that's my point is that that we're still

21:21going to have the trouble when the most

21:22cars are on the road.

21:23>> Mr. President,

21:24>> I got a question.

21:25>> Oh, I'm sorry. Miss uh Riley then Mr. uh

21:29Mitch

21:30>> my question and let let me get one just

21:32ask this point blank. This is the hours

21:35that you and the chief chief and the

21:38sheriff collaborate on. From my

21:40understanding these are the hours that

21:41the sheriff Cunningham said that he

21:44could be available to assist. Is that

21:46correct?

21:47>> Correct.

21:50>> Qu Mr. Mitch

21:51>> and just same thing Mr. president and I

21:54know we want to change the hours, but if

21:56the sheriff said that he will not change

21:58the hour, where do we go? Because like I

22:00said, this is the exact same contract

22:02that we had with the previous company, I

22:05think the the the dollar figure may be

22:07different now, but this is the exact

22:09same contract we agreed upon on 6 months

22:11ago. And only thing I don't want to see

22:13happen if we we always can go back once

22:16we we move forward, but to stop it right

22:19now and then the sheriff say, "Hey, I'm

22:21not available. Where do that leave us?"

22:22And that's the only thing that I want to

22:24make sure that we recognize cuz he can

22:25say no. He he can say no and he can say,

22:29"Hey, I'm in the county. I don't have to

22:30be inside the city and we are back at

22:33square one." So, I just want to make

22:34sure we're not going backwards.

22:37>> All right. Thank you, Mr. Mr. Mitch. I

22:40mean, Mr. Grimes, you want to reconsider

22:43or you want?

22:44>> I I'll go ahead. We'll vote it.

22:47>> Okay.

22:50You going to make the motion? Motion

22:52suspend the rules. No

22:53>> to reconsider item one.

22:54>> Motion to reconsider

22:56>> item one.

22:57>> Item one.

22:58>> All right. Have a motion to reconsider.

23:00All in favor, please raise your hand.

23:02>> Unanimous.

23:04>> Motion to adopt. Please, sir.

23:06>> Move to adopt.

23:07>> Have a motion to adopt. All in favor,

23:09please raise your hand.

23:11>> Unanimous.

23:12>> All right. Before we move on, I want to

23:14make one correction. Mr. mission. You

23:16made the statement that the sheriff can

23:18say no because we're within he's not in

23:20the city, but the city is in the county.

23:22So, that's still a major responsibility.

23:24I understand what you're saying, but

23:25y'all, we're in the county.

23:27>> All right. Thank you. Next item.

23:29>> Does the council want to entertain the

23:30additional contract?

23:31>> Yes,

23:33take those uh demolitions. Resolution

23:35approving and authorizing the mayor to

23:37execute contracts for JB West Connection

23:42at 52,400

23:45for the demo of Maxwell Heights

23:49an additional contract for JB Waste

23:51Connections 192,400

23:54demolition of Northgate Apartments

23:57JB Waste Connections 60,000 for the

24:00demolition of 319 Fair West Place.

24:04All right. Need a motion.

24:06>> So move

24:07>> need to suspend the rules.

24:09>> Motion suspend the rules.

24:10>> Have a motion to suspend the rules. All

24:12in favor, please raise your hand.

24:15>> Motion to adopt.

24:16>> Unanimous.

24:19>> Have a motion to adopt. All in favor,

24:20please raise your hand.

24:22>> Unanimous. The resolution is adopted.

24:27>> Item.

24:27>> Good luck with the demolition.

24:29>> Item 10, hearing on proposed ordinance

24:31reszoning property containing 12.8 8

24:34acres located 425 east of Southeast

24:37intersection of South Court Street in

24:39Fleming Road from a flood hazard and M1

24:42district to an M3 district. Thank you,

24:44sir.

24:48>> All right. This is a public hearing.

24:50Anyone like to speak against this item,

24:51please come forward.

24:55>> All right.

24:57You got something for us?

25:00>> Uh, we discussed at the work. I'm I'm

25:02I'm going to do that because I did say I

25:04was going to uh give you an opportunity

25:05to speak with the people. I'm going to

25:06carry this over for two weeks and then

25:08we'll get a meeting set up and we'll

25:10vote. I don't see anything happening

25:11within that meeting. But if you can work

25:12your magic, it is what it is. Okay.

25:15>> Okay.

25:15>> You're going to have to have the public

25:16hearing right now.

25:17>> Okay. This is the public hearing. Anyone

25:19like to speak against this item, please

25:20come forward. Seeing nar has been held

25:24as prop before the council carry this

25:26item for two weeks. Thank you.

25:28>> For the next meeting. Yes, sir.

25:31Item 11 hearing a proposed ordinance

25:33reszoning property containing 0.20 acres

25:36located east side of South Court Street

25:39south of the southeast intersection of

25:41Finley Avenue and South Court Street

25:42from an 01 district to an R60M district

25:50representative for item 11.

25:55>> One second.

26:03Representative item 11.

26:08>> All right. This is the public hearing.

26:10Anyone like to speak against this item,

26:12please come forward.

26:15>> Seeing none, declare the public hearing

26:16held as prop for the council. Mr.

26:18Sebastian.

26:18>> Motion to adopt.

26:20>> Have a motion to

26:21>> I have one quick question. Um, District

26:237, um, Mr. Andrew, can you tell me what

26:25do they plan on doing with what they're

26:27doing here?

26:28>> Yeah, the difference between I think the

26:30recommendation was that it go to either

26:32multi- family and then changing this

26:34office building um to apartments

26:39two I think upstairs and one downstairs.

26:41>> So it's is an apartment is a

26:43>> triplex.

26:44>> Okay. They want a triplex. Okay.

26:46>> Thank you. I have a motion

26:48>> to adopt. Have a motion to adopt. All in

26:50favor please raise your hand.

26:53unanimous ordinance is adopted.

26:56Item 12, hearing a proposed ordinance

26:58reszoning property containing 0.27 acres

27:02located at 4340 South Co Court Street

27:06from an R75S district to a B2 district.

27:10>> Representative for number 12.

27:14Item 12,

27:19South Court Street. All right. This is a

27:21public hearing. Anyone like to speak

27:24against this item, please come forward.

27:27Seeing none, the decl hand has been held

27:29as prop for the council. Mr. Rley,

27:31>> motion to deny.

27:32>> Have a motion to deny. All in favor,

27:34please raise your hand.

27:38>> Unanimous. The ordinance is denied.

27:4113. Hearing on proposed ordinance

27:43resoning property containing 125.17

27:47acres located at

27:50>> 394 542 698 and one 1024 Butler Mill

27:57Road.

27:58>> Josh, do you mind? Um, there we go.

28:00Thanks. U, let's skip to the next one. I

28:02was just going to quickly show a map to

28:04help better understand what we're

28:06looking at here. Um, and I apologize for

28:09those of you who have to turn around

28:10here, but uh the city limits is is meta

28:13and then uh all the blue area is Silicon

28:17Ranch that is out for option right now.

28:20Then in Q1 of 2027 that's supposed to

28:24close. So that's 1900 acres belonging to

28:27Silicon Ranch, the solar solar folks

28:30that do the solar farms. Um, the pink

28:34area is the property that we're talking

28:36about asking to be reszoned. The the

28:39areas that we're talking about, the dark

28:41pink shaded area is the only area that

28:43we're talking about here. That's the

28:46area that falls within the PJ. The rest

28:49is all county property. So, just to be

28:52clear, the the total acreage is 480.

28:57Um, and it it's just the pink shaded

28:59area. And and I'd like to comment if you

29:02take the city limits and map that down

29:04because I've actually done this. It's

29:071.1 miles to our property. So if you

29:11looked at that you just wanted to

29:13entertain what uh one of the other

29:16people who had spoke about the hopeull

29:18incorporation. Um we're closer by far to

29:24the city limits in the city of

29:25Montgomery. Um it's 2.9 and 2.5 miles

29:30away from the closest point of the

29:32hopeull incorporation. So um you know

29:35that wouldn't even make sense to say

29:37that you're expanding a PJ to the um

29:40hope area over to the Snowden side of of

29:43this land out here. Everything south

29:46that there is in the county. So, from my

29:48understanding, you know, you would have

29:50to go through legislative action to try

29:52to take county land and incorporate that

29:56into the police jurisdiction. I don't

29:58believe that's even allowed. Um, next

30:00slide.

30:03Again, here's another. This is from the

30:05GIS mapper. Um, the blue is the area

30:08that's in the police jurisdiction. I'm

30:11right in the middle. I own that 175

30:13acres in the middle. So, it's roughly

30:15about 5 to seven acres that's in the

30:18police jurisdiction. Um, the

30:20>> Hold on for a second, Miss uh, let me

30:22read this for a second,

30:25>> Miss Bald. One second. I I hadn't called

30:28for the public hearing yet. I know

30:30you're the petition. Let me get the

30:31opposition first and I'll let you come

30:33back. Okay. Thank you.

30:34>> Anyone like to This is the public

30:35hearing on item 13. Anyone like to uh

30:40>> speak against item 13, please come

30:42forward. Thank you, council.

30:44>> Uh, I spoke in the work session, but I

30:46do have

30:47>> Austin Overman. I do have a map now that

30:50represents the equidistant rule.

31:01>> Go to the other one.

31:09>> Mr. President, may I ask a question?

31:12That's the parcels right there. And on

31:13those hold for a second, sir, let me see

31:16it.

31:17>> Um, are you talking about the

31:18equidistant rule with respect to police

31:20jurisdiction for hope?

31:22>> Yes.

31:23>> Which has not been legally established.

31:25Correct.

31:26>> The order of incorporation was signed

31:27September 16th.

31:28>> That did not ex establish a police

31:30jurisdiction though,

31:32>> right?

31:33>> It established the town of Opal. Um

31:36there has to be a separate ordinance to

31:37establish the police jurisdiction of any

31:39incorporated municipality

31:42>> or

31:51I would argue that's not correct.

31:54>> What was what was the question?

31:58>> He's talking about a rule relative to

32:00the hope police jurisdiction which does

32:02not exist.

32:03>> Okay. All right. Thank you. All right.

32:05Go ahead. Uh, Mr. uh, Nur.

32:12>> All right. I guess that answer that.

32:14Yes, ma'am. Your name for the record.

32:17>> Good evening. My name is Elizabeth Low.

32:20Um, I actually live from where the

32:25proposed property is. I live 1.42 42

32:30miles

32:32from the actual property that they are

32:34wanting to have reage zones.

32:37Um, I want to say that I I am not

32:43against

32:45these property owners from selling the

32:48property. I respect the property rights.

32:51My concern is the government decision to

32:53reszone agriculture property to M1 light

32:57industry and the combined

33:00impact these decisions are having on our

33:03community. This is not occurring in

33:07isolation. We already have development

33:11at the commons including concerns

33:13involving heavy machinery and industrial

33:17activity in the M1 zone.

33:20I am also asking the council to consider

33:24the ADM issues along with the other

33:27industrial development issues affecting

33:30our community.

33:32I and members of our community have

33:34previously

33:37raised concerns about water, private

33:40wells, flooding, drainage, air quality,

33:44dust, traffic, water pressure, fire, and

33:47combined effects of continued industrial

33:50development in this area. These current

33:53concerns were raised during the

33:55September 24th planning commission

33:58proceeding. I have submitted written

34:01statements and requested information. I

34:04am asking tonight that my written

34:06statement and these objections formally

34:08accepted into the record and retained

34:11with this reasonzoning matter. I am I

34:14also need an answer consider considering

34:17my access

34:20to government. I have previously raised

34:23concerns about being able to access city

34:26hall and the clerk's office and about

34:30restrictions on my ability to fully

34:33present my concerns. Before you vote, I

34:37respectfully ask each member. Does this

34:40council know what industrial use is

34:43actually proposed here? And what plans,

34:47studies, envir environmental reviews,

34:50water, infrastructure, and impacts have

34:52you reviewed before deciding that M1

34:56zoning is appropriate?

34:59If the specific use and its impacts are

35:03not are not known, I respectfully ask

35:07how the council can determine that M1

35:10zoning is appropriate for this property

35:12and the surrounding community.

35:15If those qu those records have not been

35:18received or reviewed, I respectfully ask

35:21you to delay the vote rather than appro

35:25approve the resoning without the

35:27information necessary to evaluate its

35:29consequences.

35:31Finally, I request that this meeting, my

35:34complete comments, my written statement,

35:36the documents considered by the council,

35:38and the council's response be reserved

35:42as a part of our the official public

35:45record.

35:47Thank you. And the prayer

35:51that was issued,

35:53>> thank you.

35:55I wish y'all would really think because

35:58of the fact that we're part of a

36:01community. Y'all represent the city and

36:04y'all are making decisions that affect

36:07us in the county and I am only a mile

36:11from there.

36:14>> Thank you, ma'am.

36:16>> Point of order, Mr. President. She can't

36:19she can't request things to be spread in

36:21the minute. Only council can. She can

36:23provide me with a copy of that record

36:25and I'll put it with the in a file, but

36:28she cannot request it be spread in the

36:30minutes.

36:30>> Thank you.

36:31>> Yes, sir.

36:31>> Thank you.

36:32>> All right, next.

36:37>> Good evening. My name is Valerie James.

36:40I am a resident in the county of the

36:44area that they're talking about, but I

36:46live approximately two miles away. Our

36:50concerns are the fact that they're

36:52non-disclosure. So, we can't find out

36:54what's going on. Um, when we're asked,

36:57we're told that um, you'll just have to

37:00wait and find out and if you have any

37:02damages, then you can sue the

37:04corporation. That was what a county

37:07commissioner said to me. My question is

37:10that, do you feel the same way?

37:12We're talking about people that are

37:15living there and we are told by the

37:18Constitution of the United States that

37:21we have a right to be protected, that we

37:23have a right to be healthy, to be safe,

37:27and have our lives

37:30are

37:32be protected.

37:35And that's protection is that we're

37:37asking from you. You are the ones that

37:39are representing us that we put in there

37:42to protect us while we are out working

37:45and we are we are wanting you to sit

37:48there and really be serious about

37:50looking to see how it is going to affect

37:53because it doesn't just affect the

37:55county. It isffect affecting all of

37:58Montgomery County including the city.

38:01So, we're asking you to look in and and

38:04review and study because we have we have

38:08all kinds of information that we have

38:10looked up because we're not getting it

38:12from anybody else because it's

38:13non-disclosure.

38:15And that's really really scary to

38:17wonder. Here's people that we are voting

38:20for. And I did vote today that we are

38:23voting that you represent us to protect

38:25us under the Constitution.

38:29and not what's best for Montgomery, but

38:32what's best for Montgomery's

38:34constituents

38:36because we are there. We are the ones

38:37that are doing this. We are the ones

38:39that you're voting for. You are the ones

38:41that you are providing these things for.

38:44So something as serious as this is to

38:46look into it and don't trust the the

38:49industries that are telling you things

38:52because if you really were looking you

38:53would find out that nationally these

38:57companies are doing things to many many

39:01um communities that are rural that are

39:04now struggling and fighting. And maybe

39:07it might be low, it might be legal to do

39:10the things that are being done, but

39:12you've got to think about ethically. You

39:14know, we've said a prayer and our prayer

39:17is that we are the ones that are

39:19supposed to be protecting the the land

39:21and the animals because those are God's

39:24creations just like we are. So, please

39:27take that into consideration. looking to

39:29see how it does affect look to see how

39:31things are happening in other

39:34communities around the United States and

39:36who are fighting fighting against this

39:40to see what is going on and be seriously

39:42looking at it because there's already

39:45issues that there are having with

39:46flooding in areas that have never been

39:48flooded before.

39:50So I appreciate you let me speak and

39:52take my time and I wish you would look

39:54go ahead and look and study and review

39:57it and be open with what you have read

40:00to see so we can see that you're taking

40:02it seriously instead of trusting

40:04somebody saying it's okay we're not

40:06going to do something. It's okay because

40:08it's a closed system water system

40:11because there are more issues to that

40:13than studies that are showing it now.

40:15Thank you

40:16>> Mr. President. Hey, Miss uh

40:19>> May I ask her a question, please?

40:20>> Yes, ma'am.

40:21>> Who is your county representative,

40:23please? Ma'am,

40:26>> Doug Singleton.

40:28>> And you've spoken with him about this

40:30particular issue.

40:31>> We spoke to the county commission about

40:33it.

40:34>> Oh, okay.

40:35>> And I that's what we have been saying

40:36many, many times. We have been fighting

40:39this with solar because we were asking

40:42for protection and making sure that the

40:44companies would

40:45>> No, I was showing that where the city

40:48limits was and where Silicon Ranch was

40:51and our 480 acres

40:54>> to show the proximity to the city

40:56limits. I know this is not going to be a

40:58solar farm. I don't I don't know if you

41:00remember, but two years ago we were up

41:02here fighting Silicon Ranch. So, believe

41:04me, they're the last people that are

41:06going to buy our land. Well, I

41:08understand that and I see Holly Olsen

41:10over there and I'm doing a drag. I

41:12actually went toward a solar farm in

41:14South Georgia where they got the sheep

41:16and we spent a day Holly and Patrick and

41:19I and if it were solar farm I I probably

41:22wouldn't have a problem because they

41:23were they had sheep and they were con

41:25people living contiguous to the property

41:27and it does not cause erosion. Now we we

41:30went all over the property. It hits this

41:32thing and drops right on the ground.

41:33There's no concrete and it that would

41:36not cause erosion and the chemicals are

41:39minute. If you look it up, we spent a

41:41ton of research in that. But now I if

41:44you're going to sell it to another data

41:46center, that's a whole another deal.

41:48>> We don't we don't know. I can tell you

41:51Silicon Ranch has that land that's under

41:54option. It's 1900 acres.

41:58So, you know, there's city ordinances

42:01about how much they can develop on a

42:03single farm. So, I I don't know why they

42:06would want additional, but the point is

42:08we're doing this because we can't cattle

42:11farm anymore with what's coming in,

42:13right? Um, I presented this at the

42:18planning commission and and one of the

42:20big concerns is our proximity to meta

42:24and the backup diesel generators that

42:26are going to run are going to be an

42:28issue to where we're at.

42:30>> Is can I can I ask one question? I just

42:32want to ask a question real quick

42:33because it is down on the end of my

42:36representation area in the PJ. Are you

42:38all willing to annex into the city of

42:40Montgomery?

42:41>> Yes.

42:44I have one additional sorry I want to

42:46finish this. So can we get this

42:48paperwork done before we vote on this?

42:50If they're going to annex it into the

42:52city, we can carry it over and get the

42:54paperwork done for it to be annexed into

42:56the city. [clears throat]

42:58>> We we couldn't at this time

43:02what you think

43:06>> that's a lengthy process.

43:12M say is speaking too much.

43:14>> I'm sorry that is a long detailed

43:16process. So I can't promise you a time

43:18when that could happen. And I know that

43:20this group I've I've I've been here

43:22almost six months be six months next

43:24week. And they have been at this for a

43:29long time. Um, and my understanding is

43:32that that the um the zoning all around

43:36them that the planning commission

43:38recommended this because the zoning all

43:40around them has has also changed. And I

43:42may be wrong. Miss Bowlinger knows more

43:44about that than I do, but they've been

43:46at this a long time is is what I'm

43:48saying. And I I

43:51>> I don't know that that we could get

43:54annexation done quickly.

43:56>> Okay. Well, let let's just do this.

43:58Let's carry it over to the next agenda

44:00so I can look at the city maps cuz I

44:03know we have your maps, but we need to

44:04look at the city maps. So, we're going

44:06to carry over two weeks to let us look

44:08at the city maps and then we'll bring it

44:09back up so I can talk and get some

44:11understanding on what we need all need

44:12to do to get this done.

44:14>> I can see that that was given to me by

44:17the the map map guy. It's in my

44:20presentation.

44:21>> But I need to get it legally from our

44:23people. So, but as soon as we get it

44:25from there, we're going to carry it over

44:26for two week and let's get it legally

44:27from our our our our zoning district

44:30area.

44:30>> And and if I could just comment, I mean,

44:32the reality is if

44:35when when

44:37we reszone this

44:40to keep it outside of the city

44:43just for infrastructure protections

44:46doesn't make any sense. And what I mean

44:48by that is one of the things that came

44:50to light is between the PJ and the

44:54county is

44:56fire police and those types of things. I

44:59can't imagine somebody would put in an

45:02M1 light industry and want to be

45:06dependent on a volunteer fire department

45:08and what services are available. They

45:11would want the city services available.

45:13So my point is it would almost have to

45:15be annexed for any type of business to

45:18to be on that property. All

45:20>> right. Thank you, Mosley. This is going

45:22to be carried over for two weeks and

45:23we'll adjust that at our next council.

45:25Thank you. Next item.

45:31>> Did I close the public hearing? I did.

45:33>> Yes, sir. I was just debating whether

45:35the proponents were given enough an

45:37equal time to present their side. She

45:39answered questions.

45:41So my question is, is the council

45:44>> Josh where we at on time?

45:51>> Okay, we got time.

45:52>> But you haven't you heard from the

45:54proponents in the work session. You have

45:56not heard from them in this meeting if

45:58it should go to court.

46:00>> All right. So the point did you say 10

46:03minutes on the opposing side? 10

46:05minutes. Okay.

46:07>> All right. So what we get 10 minutes per

46:09side?

46:11>> You can do it either 10 minutes per side

46:13or three minutes per person, however the

46:15council so desires because I think that

46:1710 minutes was spread between the three

46:20different people.

46:21>> All right, we'll grant uh six minutes uh

46:25three additional minutes. Anyone want to

46:28speak on the opposing side at this time?

46:30>> No, the proponent side.

46:32>> Proponent side.

46:32>> We heard the opposition.

46:34>> Okay.

46:37No 13 on 13.

46:39>> 13. Anyone else like to speak on 13?

46:45>> We did not hear the proponent side in

46:47this meeting is the point I was making.

46:49All we heard was the opponent side.

46:53>> I mean, I have the presentation that I

46:55can show the city maps. If you want to

46:57see them, we can table it for two weeks.

47:01>> Josh, if you want to.

47:02>> You can't table the public hearing.

47:04That's the whole point. I see. Okay. So,

47:07this was the police jurisdiction that

47:09we're talking about. This map was done

47:11by the mappers at the county for the

47:14police jurisdiction.

47:16Um, which shows that. Um, next slide.

47:23>> And again, this shows the city limits,

47:26the police jurisdiction. The little

47:28circle is our area of the property that

47:32we're talking about.

47:36And this is from the GIS viewer. Next

47:39slide.

47:41So I want to point out that if you don't

47:44know this area very well, this really

47:46does kind of a loop and it's between 31

47:50Old McGee Road and then it comes up 331

47:55and Butler Mill Road has a little spur

47:58off of that. This is the map from

48:00Alabama Power. And what I wanted to show

48:03you is all of the things coming in. You

48:05know, besides the meta data center, the

48:08little dot is the hopeull substation.

48:11Now, that's been put in there from the

48:14expansion of Meta that comes down that

48:17road down 331.

48:19And then you can see the yellow shaded

48:22area is the property that we're talking

48:24about here. Um this map was mapping the

48:29um

48:30expansion from the power lines that are

48:33coming through the area for all kinds of

48:35things. Everything from the inter modal

48:38coming up 331 up on top the powers

48:42coming down here mapping over to to the

48:44Hobby Road substation that goes right

48:47through our property. And then as you

48:49can see south of there, just so you

48:51understand that we are not the stop gap

48:55on the development. All of this is is

48:57coming through this area. That is a 231

49:01kilowatt line that's coming down through

49:03there, which is not insignificant.

49:05That's the same size that Meta has

49:07running through there. And that little

49:09building, I couldn't tell you what that

49:11is, but that's obviously some kind of

49:13development. and that's down in the

49:15county. That's about 3 miles south of

49:18our property right now. So, it's not

49:21like we're at the cusp of the edge of

49:23the development. It's going all the way

49:25down south.

49:30understand on Norman Bridge Road across

49:32from that hopeful substation.

49:36Next has purchased that land, gotten

49:39permission from the the um

49:44Alabama Power as well as the public

49:46utility commission to put in a 100 acre

49:49best battery center right there. North

49:51of that is under contract for a

49:56development of 260 acres of cold

50:01storage. To the right of that all down

50:0431 is 300 acres being negotiated right

50:09now under a contract for an industrial

50:12park to be put in to help support the

50:14inter modal.

50:16>> So this isn't just about us.

50:23We want to be able to sell our land so

50:25it can be used. If I can't cattle farm

50:28that any longer and and grow hay on it

50:30for 175 acres, then I've got to do

50:33something different.

50:39So, I appreciate you looking at this and

50:44and understanding this growth is all

50:46coming down 331

50:48and it's and it's not,

50:51you know, we haven't sat there and and

50:54aggressively marketed this. We want to

50:56be able to market this because

50:58some of these land owners had their land

51:01up for sale for four years.

51:04four years as farmland

51:08and nobody purchased it because of the

51:10proximity to Meta.

51:13Our land before Paris and I bought it,

51:16my 175 acres was on the market for six

51:20months and it was basically almost a

51:22fire sale when you look at the price.

51:26Nobody bought it for six months when we

51:28came in.

51:32So it's not preserving this farmland

51:35that that ship is sailed for what's

51:37heading in this direction.

51:42>> All right.

51:43>> So I appreciate the time and please let

51:46me know if you have any questions.

51:47>> All right. Thank you for your time. All

51:50right.

51:51>> This is carried over to the next.

51:53>> Yes. Carried over to the next meeting.

51:54Thank you. Item 14, ordinance amending

51:56the code of ordinances section 25-191,

51:59disposal of trash and residential areas.

52:06>> You still got

52:07>> No, no, no. We had we had we had 10

52:10minutes on the component. So, we we

52:12good.

52:13>> Okay. They

52:16>> all right. on the uh item 14 is before

52:19the council. Um

52:23>> and council, you'll see that there's a

52:25second substitute in front of you. I put

52:27second amendment on it, but there's a

52:28second substitute that was sent down

52:31this morning to me from legal

52:32department.

52:34So what you have legally before you is

52:37the original ordinance.

52:41>> Mr. Seamans, I think you wanted to offer

52:43though a u an amendment on on the uh

52:46cost.

52:47>> Mr. President, I think you know again as

52:48I said we understand what public works

52:51is asking for here. They want the

52:52ability

52:53>> to

52:55require bagging of our leaves at all

52:58times of the year. It's a luxury that uh

53:01we just can't do anymore. But I think

53:03the points that were made earlier were

53:04relevant. And those points were, you

53:06know, making sure that it wasn't so

53:07punitive that it was, you know, five

53:10times as big as the charge for, as Mr.

53:13Mitchell put out pointed out, a large

53:15mattress or some kind of trash. So, I'd

53:16like to amend that line in the

53:19highlighted yellow on the paperwork in

53:21front of us where it says

53:23>> point of order. Got to make a motion to

53:25adopt, then a motion to substitute, then

53:28a motion to amend.

53:29>> Okay. So,

53:32You want me to walk you through it?

53:33>> Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Mr.

53:34Semester. I got ahead of myself. To

53:36speak on item 14

53:38is Matthew that roof.

53:43>> Rucker.

53:46>> Okay. All right.

53:47>> I was just Can I say before?

53:49>> Hold on. One more. Uh, Miss X.

53:55>> Now you can get your get your thoughts

53:56together on how we're going.

53:57>> Good evening. Angela Extra with Self

53:59Johnson and South Alliance. Um, I did

54:02have a chance to speak and I also heard

54:03work session and I heard a lot of good

54:06things in work session taking out the

54:07criminal penalty for violation that you

54:10all were considering removing that. But

54:13my question for the council,

54:15we have been told the city is in the

54:18best financial shape ever. Why can't we

54:21buy some leaf trucks? That's a good

54:24question.

54:25We do have elderly residents that cannot

54:28do the job. I heard I heard all of you

54:31during work session. I also heard Mr.

54:34Mitchell talking about the fine a $300

54:37fine tacked onto your water bill for our

54:38senior citizens that not going to work.

54:40>> So let me ask this question.

54:42>> We need those trucks. Let me ask you one

54:44question. Let me ask one question before

54:46we make the amendment cuz we're talking

54:47about something as he was going to make

54:49amendment. I hear this all the time and

54:51I'm sympathetic and empathize with

54:53senior citizen all but we always let me

54:55let me finish. Everything is always when

54:57we're in opposition of anything is about

54:59seniors and the less fortunate.

55:01>> When we talk about what the city is

55:03trying to do, you want a proponent of

55:05always keeping our streets clean and to

55:07do these things. So when we come from

55:08the people that does this work every day

55:11to bring something that's going to help

55:13them do the work. We're always opposed

55:14to these things, but we still want to

55:16consider to see this city moving

55:18forward. I just don't I don't understand

55:20that.

55:20>> So do I get my time back to finish? Uh

55:23Mr. President. Okay. Okay. You ready?

55:25That's that's what I'm getting.

55:26>> Okay, let let's move on.

55:27>> So, what if I I'm I'm going say what if

55:29I don't I don't bag my leaves and I put

55:31them out there. It's okay for me to pay

55:32the $300 or the 150.

55:35>> What's good for one is good for all. I'm

55:38going to say that first and foremost.

55:40>> Thank you.

55:41>> But we as a city, we keep saying what

55:44sanitation department with all of these

55:46issues. Let's go back and look at all

55:48these multiple months when we didn't

55:50have our trash picked up on the curb

55:51side. Now, we increased that rate of $5

55:54a month. I know y'all know they increase

55:56that to the sanitation side to give more

55:59finances for sanitation, but we need to

56:03stop and see what do we have in our tool

56:05box. Do we have any leaf trucks down

56:07there? Do we need to get more people

56:10that can help work on heavy machinery?

56:12Why can't the city sponsor some folks to

56:14go to school and get certified to work

56:16for the city? Put them on a contract. If

56:18we send you to school, you're going to

56:19stay and work for the city for two

56:21years. We got to look ahead in the

56:22future. See what we got going on. Yes, I

56:25believe in bagging up the leaves cuz I

56:27don't want all the leaves on my street

56:28either. I bag mine. That's why I cut all

56:31my trees down so I won't have to bag.

56:34So, that's where I am with the leaves.

56:36But I'm thankful that you remove you're

56:39going to remove the criminal penalties

56:41violation. I am thankful for that. Also,

56:45will you push back the time when it goes

56:48in effect? Because it's going to go in

56:50effect so quickly. We've got to alert

56:53the public. It needs to be on the news.

56:56We need to have it broadcast on the

56:57radio. I don't care if it's two weeks

56:59out, 3 weeks out, four weeks out. We've

57:01got to get the citizens. They already

57:02know from no October 1 to December, it

57:05was already in place. Now, we going to

57:07add January throughout the whole year.

57:10So, it should not be something that they

57:11don't already know.

57:13>> Mr. President.

57:14>> So I agree with you.

57:17>> We this this goes into effect beginning

57:19of next year

57:20>> January 27th.

57:22>> We have

57:22>> but it's already been in effect from for

57:24leave for October one, but I know y'all

57:26talking about the fines. Y'all talking

57:27about adding that additional

57:29>> timeline this timeline for this is not

57:31is not affecting right now because we

57:33did the we did the fall was it two years

57:35ago?

57:36>> Yeah.

57:37>> So I as I said I understand the concerns

57:41about cost. I really do. But just like

57:44we do with other nuisance issues,

57:47>> there has to be some kind of penalty

57:49>> to and so we'll make an amendment. I'll

57:52propose that goes down to 50 bucks. It's

57:55a little bit more than some of the the

57:56single large items, but I think that's

57:58fair.

57:59>> Okay.

57:59>> And then we'll move this thing forward

58:00because we have to provide help to our

58:02public works department, sanitation

58:04departments. We have in this city some

58:06I'm not originally from Montgomery, so

58:08I've never lived in a place where you

58:10get twice a week trash pickup. That is a

58:12luxury that those people are out there

58:14doing. It reduces the number of days

58:16that our crews can be out there cleaning

58:18up public spaces, taking care of our

58:20parks, taking care of our sidewalks and

58:22our thoroughares. And so we are trying

58:24to find ways to make it more efficient

58:27for people to do the jobs that we're

58:29asking to do. And there's less personnel

58:31right now to do it. And I think if you

58:33want to talk about what we get as a

58:34city, what we are investing in, it's

58:36that luxury. That's something that and

58:38people tell me, you know, we don't touch

58:40the twice a week trash. We're not. But

58:42that means we have one day in the

58:43regular week to do leaf and limb and

58:46public spaces and we want them to be

58:48able to do that more efficiently.

58:49>> Sure.

58:50>> So that they can get through that and I

58:51think that this is a reasonable thing

58:52and Mr. President, I'd like to make a

58:54motion to adopt it. I'll make a motion.

58:55>> Before we take the motion, Miss uh Thank

58:57you,

58:57>> Mr. President. I I think we should move

59:00this to committee. We have had

59:01absolutely too much discussion on this.

59:03I have not been involved in the

59:05committee and making these decisions. So

59:07point on the committee thinking it was a

59:09motion on the floor to adopt.

59:11>> So I have them take that motion. So that

59:13that can't go on the committee. So we

59:15need a motion to adopt Mr. uh Mr.

59:17>> President and then Mr. President. Now we

59:20need a motion to substitute the

59:22substitute.

59:22>> Now we need a motion to amend the

59:24substitute.

59:25>> You have to let him speak.

59:27>> What's going to be your

59:29>> Hold on.

59:30>> I thought I thought he yelled this time.

59:32>> I don't know. I

59:38No,

59:38>> he needs to come.

59:39>> It's been It's been removed. The current

59:41has been moved. Removed that two weeks

59:42ago.

59:44>> All right.

59:44>> Go ahead. Go ahead, Mr.

59:48>> Thank you.

59:48>> Yes.

59:49>> All right. Mr. President, can I just ask

59:52quick question?

59:53>> But we got a motion on the floor, so I'm

59:54just trying to go with what we got.

59:57>> So, so I'm going tell you guys how to

59:59vote. There's a motion on the floor. So

1:00:00point of order is to take the motion and

1:00:02you can discuss that or you can vote it

1:00:04up or down as you move.

1:00:05>> Okay. We've got to do three motions.

1:00:07>> Discuss the second.

1:00:09>> Mr. Zamski, are you going to make the

1:00:11three? We need We've got a

1:00:12>> motion to adopt.

1:00:13>> Motion to adopt.

1:00:14>> Yes.

1:00:15>> Now motion to substitute.

1:00:16>> Motion to substitute.

1:00:17>> Now motion to amend and substitute.

1:00:20>> Motion to amend and substitute.

1:00:21>> Mr. Chairman, you call for the motion to

1:00:23amend.

1:00:24>> Okay. I have a motion to amend. Uh

1:00:26changing the

1:00:27>> And what the amendments are?

1:00:28>> Yes. The amendment is simply to change

1:00:31the number $300 in the final sentence of

1:00:34the highlighted red text

1:00:37>> to

1:00:38>> $50.

1:00:39>> To to only $50.

1:00:41>> Yes.

1:00:42>> Okay.

1:00:44Do you want to change the effective

1:00:45date? You said something about that

1:00:47because it would go into effect once

1:00:48it's

1:00:50>> advertised. Yep. No, we're good.

1:00:52>> You're good with that one. So, just that

1:00:54one amendment.

1:00:54>> That's correct.

1:00:55>> Okay. Mr. President, you need to call

1:00:57for the mot.

1:00:59>> All right.

1:00:59>> The vote on the motion to amend.

1:01:00>> All right. We have a vote motion on the

1:01:02floor to

1:01:03>> amend.

1:01:04>> Amend.

1:01:05>> All in favor, please raise your hand.

1:01:11>> Okay.

1:01:12>> Seven.

1:01:13>> All right. There went eight.

1:01:15>> All right.

1:01:16>> Mr. Puit, what's your vote?

1:01:19>> Uh, no.

1:01:22>> All right. So, now we've been the main

1:01:24motion.

1:01:25>> Now, now the substitute to the motion to

1:01:28adopt the substitute as amended.

1:01:30>> All right, Mask

1:01:32>> motion to

1:01:33>> the motion's already in for on the

1:01:34floor. Just

1:01:35>> a motion to adopt a substitute. All in

1:01:37favor, please raise your hand.

1:01:43>> Okay.

1:01:45>> Six.

1:01:47>> I need one, two, and three's vote.

1:01:50>> One, two, and three.

1:01:53>> Mr.

1:01:55>> Mr. Grimes, you're a no.

1:01:56>> No.

1:01:57>> All right.

1:01:58>> Two's a no. Miss Sanki,

1:02:01>> no.

1:02:03>> Great. So, the motion to substitute as

1:02:06amended carries. Now, we need the the

1:02:09vote on the motion to adopt as

1:02:11substituted and amended.

1:02:12>> Have a motion to adopt.

1:02:14>> We have the motion. We just need the

1:02:15vote.

1:02:16>> All in favor, please raise your hand.

1:02:18>> What? Excuse me. Give me clarif

1:02:20clarification, please, on what we're

1:02:22voting on.

1:02:22>> We're voting on the motion. You're

1:02:24voting on the motion to adopt the

1:02:26substitute as amended.

1:02:29>> It takes three votes on it to get to get

1:02:32it to this.

1:02:34>> So, we're voting on it. He changed the

1:02:36$300

1:02:38>> fine to $50. So,

1:02:40>> we voted on the substitute. Now, we're

1:02:41voting on the main motion as as

1:02:43>> to adopt a substitute.

1:02:44>> Adopt the substitute.

1:02:47>> I've got a motion. All in favor, please

1:02:48raise your hand.

1:02:55Five.

1:02:57>> I need the votes of one, two.

1:02:59>> Not for votes for the record.

1:03:00>> One, two, three,

1:03:03and eight.

1:03:04>> Are y'all all nodes?

1:03:06>> No.

1:03:06>> No.

1:03:07>> No. For me?

1:03:08>> No.

1:03:10>> Are you a ma'am?

1:03:12>> The motion carries. Five to four.

1:03:15>> Thank you.

1:03:16>> So, the ordinance is adopted as

1:03:18substituted and amended.

1:03:20>> All right.

1:03:22Next item.

1:03:23>> Item 15, show cause hearing on the

1:03:26proposed resolution revoking the

1:03:27business license of capital recycling at

1:03:293800 Mobile Highway. Mr.

1:03:31>> Riley, this item

1:03:33>> um this uh item will be carried over for

1:03:35two weeks. Um

1:03:37Miss Head, you want to say anything

1:03:39about it?

1:03:40>> It's carried. It's I had I requested it

1:03:43be carried over so that I could amend

1:03:45the letter to show cause and I will have

1:03:47it by November the 17th. Then I promised

1:03:49the lawyers that I on on both sides I

1:03:52would do that as well.

1:03:56>> Okay. So the show cause hearing and the

1:03:57resolution is carried over.

1:04:00>> Item 17, resolution to establish the

1:04:03healthcare authority of Montgomery.

1:04:07>> All right. Item 17. Need a motion.

1:04:17He can die for lack of motion.

1:04:22>> Let me let me speak on this. You can

1:04:23carry it over. We can kill it. We can we

1:04:24can do what we need to do. And I said

1:04:26this in the work session and I know some

1:04:28of the council members are asking what

1:04:29is the county? Why didn't the county

1:04:31take this up? I think at some point we

1:04:33have had discussion with the county

1:04:35commission, all the legal staff that we

1:04:37had this for three weeks. This has been

1:04:39something to address the healthc care

1:04:41issues in the city of Montgomery. We're

1:04:43moving forward. It's not on this city

1:04:45council. We was elected as leaders to

1:04:46act on the things that we need to do to

1:04:48address the issues that we have in this

1:04:50city. If the county commission don't act

1:04:52on it, it's not on us. We can pass this

1:04:54with continues on what the county

1:04:56commission does because it takes both of

1:04:58us working together. It's the county's

1:05:00responsibility anyway to take care of

1:05:02anything care within Montgomery County.

1:05:04what the city of Montgomery was doing to

1:05:06try to come and meet them halfway to say

1:05:08we were willing to participate in this

1:05:10process just like we did with the $50

1:05:12million that we came together as a city

1:05:14and the county to help Jackson

1:05:17Healthcare as we move forward. Mr. Puit

1:05:19talked about uh uh p patriotic care

1:05:24patriotic care in in the city of

1:05:26Montgomery. We know what we're facing

1:05:27with, but for us to sit and do nothing,

1:05:29I think it's just absolutely insane for

1:05:31this council to just sit back and wait

1:05:33of another government entity to lead us

1:05:35on where we're trying to go.

1:05:37>> Mr. President,

1:05:38>> Mr. Mitch,

1:05:40>> um I just say we voted up and down. So,

1:05:41I make a motion to adopt.

1:05:44>> Mr. You had something you needed to say.

1:05:45>> Yeah. Well, I just I mean I think the

1:05:47point though I mean to your point

1:05:48because I agree that we have to have a

1:05:50mechanism. We have to have a way to do

1:05:51this. But throughout the entirety of the

1:05:53process, there's not been exact clarity

1:05:56on each entity's role in this. I the

1:05:58city steps up and we commit to doing

1:06:00this. It's purely symbolic if the county

1:06:03isn't coming along anyway. That's what

1:06:05you told us in the break and I think

1:06:06that's one of the things that is

1:06:08perplexing to me is that we've had

1:06:09multiple meetings on this and then it

1:06:12seems like when the the entity that we

1:06:14are looking to to move this thing

1:06:15forward is nowhere to be seen.

1:06:17>> So we could table this indefinitely and

1:06:19say we can make it conditional on the

1:06:20county. is purely a symbolic gesture.

1:06:24But I think that the what I don't want

1:06:26to see is the conversation stopped

1:06:30because clearly we're not we've not

1:06:31convinced the the the other entity the

1:06:33other half of this cooperative

1:06:35agreement. And so what we pass this

1:06:37thing and then we feel good about the

1:06:39fact that we did it but then we stop

1:06:41engaging stop trying to figure out how

1:06:43to solve this problem. Stop trying to

1:06:44figure out how we can build an authority

1:06:46that'll help our healthcare ecosystem in

1:06:48Montgomery. So, you know, I don't think

1:06:51that there's enough clarity on on this

1:06:54stage. It seems I'm not speaking for my

1:06:56colleagues, but it also I don't want it

1:06:59to symbolize that we've just done our

1:07:01part and then we wait, right? and maybe

1:07:04giving this thing some life by

1:07:06tableabling it until the county is ready

1:07:07to have the next form of conversation is

1:07:10the right thing rather than having to

1:07:12reddraft to redraw to recreate the

1:07:17parameters around a healthcare

1:07:18authority. The the entire process that

1:07:21we've been through clearly has not

1:07:23gotten us to a point where everybody

1:07:24feels comfortable moving forward and so

1:07:27just a symbol like symbolic gesture to

1:07:29say that we do isn't going to solve our

1:07:32problem.

1:07:33Mr. President, Mr. Mitch, come leave me.

1:07:36>> And I asked that question in our

1:07:38meeting. I asked if both entities decide

1:07:41if one decide not to do it, how what did

1:07:44that path look? And nobody really

1:07:46answered that question. And we are at

1:07:48that spot now that if they don't decide

1:07:51to do, how do we move? Because we need

1:07:53to take care of of the people in

1:07:55Montgomery and the surrounding cities.

1:07:57What do that look like? because I asked

1:07:58several times in that meeting if the

1:08:00county decide not to engage uh what

1:08:04would that path look like and I still

1:08:05didn't get that question answer Mr.

1:08:07President Mr.

1:08:08>> President have Mr. Cy and then I'll come

1:08:11back to you Mr. M. Well, he expressed my

1:08:14sentiments, but I do think there is

1:08:16definitely a need for a healthcare

1:08:17authority of Montgomery. And I don't

1:08:19know, and I of course I don't have all

1:08:21the details. I'm I'm the newcomer on the

1:08:23block, but I think at some point we need

1:08:25to look into um I guess further dive

1:08:29into this thing to see how we can make

1:08:30it work.

1:08:32>> All right.

1:08:33>> M Mr. President,

1:08:35>> I have Mr. Puit, then you, Mr. Grimes.

1:08:37>> Okay. Go ahead.

1:08:38>> No, I was just sharing with Mr.

1:08:39Mitchell. I think in that meeting,

1:08:41mayor, we we heard that the county's got

1:08:43to be the bus driver on this. We're

1:08:45doing this as a symbolic gesture to go

1:08:47along and help them, but the county has

1:08:50to be the bus driver on this healthcare

1:08:51authority.

1:08:52>> Well, I I wouldn't say they have to be

1:08:54the bus driver. I'd say they have to be

1:08:55on the bus. Um I I think

1:08:57>> they made him on the bus at the bus

1:08:59station.

1:09:00>> Well, listen, I I I think that's

1:09:02something for the citizens of Montgomery

1:09:03to, you know, to take to their county

1:09:05commissioners. Uh if that's the case, I

1:09:07think a few of them are. Um, but I think

1:09:09as it relates to uh the city and and why

1:09:12we took the lead was because we pledged

1:09:15tens of millions of dollars in taxpayers

1:09:17money toward uh the authority and the

1:09:20city I mean going you look you know

1:09:22going back 60 70 years has established

1:09:25various authorities for various things

1:09:27and they didn't wait on the county it

1:09:29didn't wait on the state or anybody

1:09:30else. Uh I think that what uh

1:09:33establishing this healthcare authority,

1:09:35the resolution uh to establish the

1:09:37healthcare authority is a step one not

1:09:40only to the county but to our citizens

1:09:42here in Montgomery that we as a body uh

1:09:45are making the right steps to invest in

1:09:47health care services uh for Montgomery

1:09:50and the river region. And so I think by

1:09:55doing what we think is right um is most

1:09:58important. We can't control what the

1:09:59county does. at some point those

1:10:01citizens in particular those that live

1:10:02inside you all's non edition inside the

1:10:04city limits will have to take that up uh

1:10:06with their county commissioners but what

1:10:09I'm saying is that I think we want to be

1:10:11in a place where we can move forward and

1:10:13not wait on one to move before we move

1:10:15if it's the right thing and I think it

1:10:17is the right thing to establish the

1:10:18healthcare authority then we ought to

1:10:20vote to support it doesn't obligate us

1:10:22to anything at this point but it does

1:10:24put the first step uh in motion where

1:10:27this is concerned and I think it sets

1:10:29the framework

1:10:30of what we can do and we may have to,

1:10:32you know, come back and and moderate

1:10:34this or uh change that. That that's all

1:10:38part of the process. So, but it doesn't

1:10:39have to be all or none uh right now. But

1:10:42I think we've got to get something on

1:10:43the books so we're going to look up

1:10:44again and we're going to be pressed into

1:10:47a corner um by something that's

1:10:50happening. And my goal is for us not to

1:10:55do things reactively, but to do things

1:10:57proactively. and this allows us to do

1:10:59that.

1:11:00>> Well, Mr. President,

1:11:01>> Mr. Brian,

1:11:03>> one of one of my concerns in talking to

1:11:04some of the hospitals that they they're

1:11:06filing for these grants we're talking

1:11:08about going after. They're already

1:11:09filing for those. Jackson didn't get any

1:11:12because they were in bankruptcy and just

1:11:14coming out of bankruptcy. They're going

1:11:15to file for those same uh rule grants

1:11:18that we're going to file for in other

1:11:20grants. I'm concerned that we need if

1:11:23we're going to do this, we need a

1:11:24funding vehicle other than those grants.

1:11:27and whether it's a syntax or something

1:11:29else, we're we're getting authority, but

1:11:31we don't how are we going to fund it

1:11:33because they're going after the same

1:11:34grants we're going after. They we don't

1:11:36they don't need us to get those grants.

1:11:40>> I think Okay, you done, Mr. Grant. I I

1:11:43just say I'd say it again. I think we

1:11:46met jointly with the county from city

1:11:48council as a whole. We discussed this in

1:11:52three separate meetings. We carried the

1:11:53Mino. brought in consulting some people

1:11:55from out of town to talk with us about

1:11:57it. Now it's before the county. I'm not

1:11:59sitting back. I don't want to sit back

1:12:00and wait on the county to just if we

1:12:02pass it. I kind of agree. Let the

1:12:04citizen talk with the county, talk with

1:12:06the county commission, talk with the

1:12:07state legislature as we deal with

1:12:08healthcare. But as the city, if we're

1:12:11trying to be proactive, we have paid a

1:12:12consultant to bring this authority

1:12:14before us. And at the ninth hour, and I

1:12:17say this all the time, we have to

1:12:19somebody say they're not on the bus, but

1:12:21we're trying to pull up the bus to get

1:12:22them on.

1:12:23>> Well, Mr. President, Mr. President, Mr.

1:12:25President,

1:12:26>> 100 miles starts with the first step.

1:12:28So, we keep going back and forth on what

1:12:29the county is not doing and what the but

1:12:31we was elected as the city. We took 22

1:12:34and a half committed 22.5 million of

1:12:37city money for a health care system or

1:12:40situation that we were faced with here

1:12:41in Montgomery. Whether we did it or the

1:12:44county, we had to do something. So we

1:12:46putting a vehicle in front of us to move

1:12:48forward. So if this comes up to him, we

1:12:49can address it. And to answer Mr. Grime

1:12:52here, it has to be done with a sin tax,

1:12:54different grants. You know, we can say

1:12:56what other hospitals or people are doing

1:12:58to go out to get these grants. But if

1:13:00we're not proactive in this city on what

1:13:02we need to protect our interest, then

1:13:04what are we doing? We're waiting on

1:13:05somebody else to drive our bus instead

1:13:07of us driving our own bus.

1:13:09>> Well, Mr.

1:13:10>> Mr. President,

1:13:11>> Mr. Jim, right? in I heard Mir

1:13:13>> I mean the mayor himself made the

1:13:16comment that under law the county

1:13:19government has this responsibility in

1:13:22the meeting we had last week the county

1:13:26commissioners acknowledged they had the

1:13:29responsibility

1:13:32this doesn't cover the entire county

1:13:35Pike Road's not there and now you got

1:13:37hopeull in it too I mean we've got more

1:13:41than just the city of Montgomery. We

1:13:42used to be just one, but now we've got

1:13:44all these other cities around it that

1:13:46have got the responsibility and it's

1:13:48particularly the county by law. So I

1:13:52think we need to let the county

1:13:53>> I agree with you 100%. Right. But I know

1:13:55this much. There's no hospital that sits

1:13:57in Hoko or Pike Road. It's in the city

1:14:00of Montgomery.

1:14:02So you know, everybody's eating. I say

1:14:04this all the time. Montgomery is the

1:14:06river that drives all these swings. And

1:14:08we're sitting back waiting on other

1:14:09people to drive what the river do. and

1:14:11not we tell the streets how to reform.

1:14:14>> That's my turning head.

1:14:16>> I want to answer this linguine question

1:14:18from from Mr. Mitchell if I may.

1:14:22Nothing the city does to enter this

1:14:24count help to to adopt this healthc care

1:14:27authority will change the county's

1:14:29responsibility under the state statute.

1:14:32The county will still have the legal

1:14:34responsibility under state law to

1:14:36provide for indigent care. And so there

1:14:40was discussion about this in the

1:14:41session. Somebody asked how it would

1:14:43work. Can the hospital can a hospital

1:14:45still send a bill to the county?

1:14:47Absolutely. The healthc care authority

1:14:50incorporation is all that is requested

1:14:52at this point. The funding mechanisms

1:14:55have to be decided after that mechanism

1:14:57is in place.

1:14:59>> Okay.

1:15:00>> I

1:15:02is that did you just answer what what

1:15:05happens if we pass this and the county

1:15:06does not come along?

1:15:08Nothing.

1:15:09>> It does not change their legal

1:15:11responsibility under state law. Is that

1:15:13what you're asking?

1:15:14>> So I get no. Well, yes. Uh

1:15:18>> where are we at with the funding

1:15:20mechanisms and all the other stuff that

1:15:22goes along with

1:15:23>> the funding mechanism will have to be

1:15:25determined after incorporation. None

1:15:27none of the This is not the time to

1:15:31discuss to to determine the funding the

1:15:33funding.

1:15:34>> Well, yeah, it is. If we if you know if

1:15:36we're going to share with the county and

1:15:37they don't come with us and then

1:15:39>> it goes nowhere. It's a resolution and

1:15:42we're asking for a funding mechanism.

1:15:44The healthc care authority is their

1:15:45responsibility to create the funding

1:15:47mechanism. We're talking about the setup

1:15:49cost.

1:15:50>> Talking about setup cost.

1:15:51>> Yeah. The setup cost is the only thing

1:15:52that we're responsible. So if the county

1:15:54don't come along, it goes nowhere. The

1:15:55bus don't leave the bus station.

1:15:57>> What about the setup cost?

1:15:59>> Yeah. We're still responsible for our

1:16:00half,

1:16:01>> but if they don't come, we don't pay if

1:16:03they don't come forward. The only thing

1:16:04I'm asking is saying for this council,

1:16:06we should be predicated on what the

1:16:08county does. We was elected to make

1:16:10decisions as the city council to move

1:16:12forward. If we going to wait every day

1:16:14on the county that to tell us what to

1:16:16do, then we we stop having meetings.

1:16:18>> Mr. President,

1:16:20>> Mr. Mr. President, I think my motion is

1:16:23still on the floor.

1:16:24>> What's your motion?

1:16:25>> My motion was to motion to adopt.

1:16:27>> All right.

1:16:30We have a motion on the floor to adopt.

1:16:33All in favor, please raise your hand.

1:16:43>> Six.

1:16:44>> All right. All

1:16:45>> opposes.

1:16:48>> Three.

1:16:50>> All right. Thank you, council.

1:16:53>> Resolution is adopted.

1:16:55>> Thank you. Next item.

1:16:58Item 18, review of McGee Park

1:17:01Apartments, 3800 Governor's Drive.

1:17:07All right. Is a representative for McGee

1:17:10Park for apartments.

1:17:17Hey, let me let me just say what's going

1:17:18on with this and we're going to move on.

1:17:20Um, and we're working this. The problem

1:17:23with McGee Park uh park apartments is

1:17:25over here by Atlanta school. Uh they

1:17:28have a whole lot of um code in code u

1:17:32violations in that in that property.

1:17:34They don't have the parking lot lights

1:17:36haven't been on uh since April of 2026.

1:17:40And the major thing and I think I'm

1:17:42talking with Mr. Lawrence on this on how

1:17:43we go forward with this. When we went to

1:17:46uh send a a letter to have them come

1:17:49before the council, we found out that

1:17:50they don't even have a business license.

1:17:53They hadn't had one in 20 since 2024.

1:17:55So, that's the problem that we need to

1:17:57address as we go forward because we have

1:18:00a responsibility to our citizens when we

1:18:02get these calls to try to address these

1:18:06address these issues and we can't get no

1:18:08one before the council then that's a

1:18:09problem. So,

1:18:11>> I see someone talk to me about it.

1:18:13>> Thank you.

1:18:17>> Good afternoon. When we were made aware

1:18:19of the complaint with um McGee Park

1:18:21Apartments, we reached out to the um the

1:18:25owners. We found out that they changed

1:18:26ownership. Um as of Jan 2026, um we

1:18:31reached out to Mr. Lucas Fernandez. Um

1:18:34they're having issues with um passing

1:18:36their um inspection for a CO. Okay. So,

1:18:40M. Head, I want to work with you on this

1:18:42because we need to create a a a pun

1:18:45punitive punishment for it's a fine or

1:18:48whatever we need to do this going

1:18:49forward because I'm I'm sick and tired

1:18:51of absentee landlords that's coming in

1:18:53operating business within this city.

1:18:55Thank you.

1:18:55>> We do nothing.

1:18:56>> You know, if it's 20 take the property

1:18:59of $25,000 a day, you know, I'm all in

1:19:01for that. You know, but we have to make

1:19:03people accountable for these type action

1:19:05within this city. The chief operating

1:19:07officer has already started doing

1:19:08research into other cities and what

1:19:10they're doing and how their enforcement

1:19:12is working or not working and so it he's

1:19:16got he's got me on it as of today.

1:19:19>> All right. So,

1:19:19>> Mr. President,

1:19:20>> we carried it on for two weeks. Yes,

1:19:22ma'am.

1:19:22>> Can I can I just ask one question, Mr.

1:19:24President?

1:19:24>> Yes.

1:19:25>> How can we do a better job of like this

1:19:28is you said 2020, Mr. President. Is that

1:19:30what you said?

1:19:31>> 2024. So, we're talking two years

1:19:33without a business license. I mean, I

1:19:36don't know how your computer system

1:19:37works, but is there not something in

1:19:40there that flags this that says, "Hey,

1:19:42we don't have a business license."

1:19:44>> Um, there flags it. Um, like I said,

1:19:48when we were made aware of this, when it

1:19:50sometimes, you know, businesses would

1:19:51slip under the radar. We deal with tens

1:19:53of thousands of business. Yes, ma'am.

1:19:54>> So, unfortunately, this was one of them.

1:19:56But, as soon as I was made aware of it,

1:19:58I sent examiners out to investigate and

1:20:00we found out that the ownership changed.

1:20:03So, we're trying to rectify that

1:20:04situation.

1:20:05>> All right. But is there a tool in your

1:20:07computer system that flags businesses

1:20:09that do not renew licenses each year?

1:20:13>> There is a tool for that. We have a

1:20:14report that we run.

1:20:17>> Would this not have come up on the

1:20:18report?

1:20:19>> It would have, like I said, this is one

1:20:21of tens of thousands of businesses that

1:20:23we renew that slipped through the

1:20:25cracks. So, we will take the fall for

1:20:27that.

1:20:27>> All right. Thank you so much.

1:20:29>> Thank you, Mr. Gr. Thank you, ma'am.

1:20:30Next item. So, this one's carried over

1:20:32to the next meeting.

1:20:33>> Yes, ma'am. Till we get that $50,000 of

1:20:35the fund.

1:20:36>> Item 19, review of Roadr Runner 4614

1:20:40Virginia Loop Road.

1:20:43>> Mitch,

1:20:45there's a representative from Road

1:20:46Runner here.

1:20:51Proh

1:20:5346.

1:20:54>> Sir, speak into the mic for me and your

1:20:56name for the record.

1:21:01Is that on your list, Mr. President?

1:21:04>> No, it's not.

1:21:05>> Okay. He needs to write it down.

1:21:07>> Say your name again.

1:21:08>> Brol.

1:21:09>> He needs to write it down.

1:21:10>> I'll get you to write it down for me.

1:21:13>> Use your outdoor voice for me.

1:21:16>> B for boy for

1:21:20say spell it.

1:21:21>> No, he didn't say spell your name. But

1:21:23we gonna get you to write it down. The

1:21:24only thing I'm I'm I'm concerned about

1:21:27is safety issues. Um I have had a lot of

1:21:30people complain that late at night a lot

1:21:32of people are are walking and hanging

1:21:34out. Um I I want to see can we get some

1:21:39security um for for the business. Um

1:21:42just primarily the weekends. Um and if

1:21:46it's nothing for about 30 days, just

1:21:48make sure that we don't have anybody

1:21:50hanging out. And because a lot of people

1:21:51I frequent that store daily and I just

1:21:54want to make sure that they're safe

1:21:55walking to and from that store so y'all

1:21:58can do security. Um I greatly appreciate

1:22:00it. Miss Blot, we'll bring them back in

1:22:02probably about 60 days.

1:22:06>> Okay.

1:22:08>> And that was my only concern, just

1:22:10people hanging out.

1:22:11>> Everything else been I mean everything

1:22:12else y'all been real good on. So thank

1:22:14you.

1:22:15>> Okay. Thank you. I appreciate it.

1:22:16>> And if you'll if you'll come write your

1:22:18name for me.

1:22:20That's it. I'm

1:22:23>> okay.

1:22:23>> That's all you need.

1:22:24>> That's it. That's it. I'm moving.

1:22:27>> I'm not going to hold y'all until 8.

1:22:29>> Oh, now you don't want to hold us at

1:22:308:00.

1:22:33>> All right.

1:22:37>> Item number 20, resolution approving and

1:22:40authorizing mayor to execute an

1:22:41agreement with ALDOT for traffic signal

1:22:44upgrades and congestion management on

1:22:46Atlanta Highway from West Eagle Drive to

1:22:48Taylor Road. All right. You need a

1:22:50motion to suspend the rules.

1:22:50>> Motion to suspend the rules.

1:22:51>> Have a motion to suspend the rules. All

1:22:53in favor, please raise your hand.

1:22:54>> Motion to adopt. Have a motion.

1:22:55Unanimous.

1:22:56>> I have a motion to adopt. All in favor,

1:22:58please raise your hand.

1:22:59>> Unanimous. Resolution is adopted.

1:23:03>> Let's roll.

1:23:04>> Item 21, resolution changing the date of

1:23:06the October 5th 5th, 2027 council

1:23:10meeting date, which is the runoff

1:23:12election day to October the 12th to

1:23:14coincide with the canvasing of the

1:23:15returns.

1:23:16>> Motion suspend the rules.

1:23:17>> Have a motion to suspend the rules. All

1:23:19in favor, please raise your hand.

1:23:21>> Unanimous.

1:23:22>> Motion to adopt.

1:23:23>> All in favor, please raise your hand.

1:23:26>> Unanimous. Resolution is adopted. Item

1:23:2922, resolution approving special

1:23:31achievement awards to city employees for

1:23:33extraordinary service.

1:23:36>> Motion suspend the rules.

1:23:38>> Have a motion to suspend the rules for

1:23:39the remainder of the agenda.

1:23:40>> No, sorry. We got a public hearing.

1:23:41>> Oh, I see that. Oh, I I do. I see you

1:23:44now. All in favor, please raise your

1:23:46hand.

1:23:47Unanimous

1:23:48>> motion to adopt. All

1:23:50>> please raise your hand.

1:23:52>> Unanimous resolution is adopted. Item

1:23:5520, resolution to make payments to

1:23:57specific private organizations and

1:23:59entities.

1:24:01>> Motion suspend the rules.

1:24:02>> Have a motion to suspend the rules. All

1:24:03in favor, please raise your hand.

1:24:06>> Unanimous.

1:24:07>> Motion to adopt.

1:24:12>> Unanimous. Resolution is adopted. Item

1:24:1624, application for restaurant retail

1:24:18liquor license doing business as the

1:24:20vault bar and grill 344 McGee Road.

1:24:23Representative for the vault, please

1:24:24come forward.

1:24:30>> Good evening. My name is Cambria

1:24:32Robinson.

1:24:33>> Hey, good morning. How you doing?

1:24:34>> Good. How are you?

1:24:35>> Good morning. Feel like I mean I'm

1:24:38sorry.

1:24:39All right. This is the public hearing.

1:24:41Any one like to speak against this item,

1:24:43please come forward.

1:24:52You coming?

1:24:53>> Are you Miss Andrea Shalin?

1:24:56>> Yes.

1:24:56>> Come on.

1:24:58>> Andrea what?

1:25:00>> Shanklin's

1:25:07>> Thank you.

1:25:14Good evening. I'm Miss Shanklin. Um yes.

1:25:17Um

1:25:19I'm the owner of a daycare in that um

1:25:22shopping center and I came to deny the

1:25:25license of that club to be right there

1:25:27by my daycare center cuz I had problems

1:25:30with that before with the um the rumors

1:25:33that was there. My kids I lost um a big

1:25:37amount of kids. I had to close my salon.

1:25:40has salon there as well. Had to close it

1:25:42down cuz everybody was scared cuz they

1:25:44drive in the parking lot in donuts and

1:25:46out there with guns in their hands. And

1:25:48I've been there since 2017.

1:25:51I was the firstbody there and now they

1:25:53come there and just ruin the um whole um

1:25:57community right there. And it's already

1:26:00four um event centers there. And it's

1:26:03got the one club sugar. But no, they all

1:26:06right down there cuz they down there.

1:26:08But they trying to put that club by my

1:26:10daycare and I'm here for denial of that

1:26:15>> council. What she handed me were

1:26:16petition

1:26:17>> I got some um

1:26:18>> that have 42 names on it

1:26:20>> signature for petition

1:26:22>> to for no for deny.

1:26:24>> All right. All right. Let me ask you one

1:26:28question before we move. The petition

1:26:30are those customers or those people that

1:26:33>> it's customer name for the record? Uh,

1:26:36Brian Smith.

1:26:37>> Brian Smith.

1:26:38>> Brian Smith.

1:26:39>> Brian Smith. Okay. Yes, sir.

1:26:40>> All right. So, it's customers.

1:26:42>> It's It's our customers and people that

1:26:45uh I got Bishop Parker and I got

1:26:47[snorts] the Sen office right there.

1:26:49>> So, you you and Miss Shanklin are in the

1:26:51same business?

1:26:51>> Yes, it's

1:26:53>> Okay. All right. All right.

1:26:56You got the uh

1:26:59you have that for the record, Mr.

1:27:01>> Yes, sir. They're permanent records. I

1:27:02can give y'all copies of them if you

1:27:04want me to put them in your in your

1:27:05boxes.

1:27:07>> All right. Okay. Thank you, Miss uh

1:27:10Robert.

1:27:15>> Yes, sir.

1:27:16>> Okay. Now, you now what what exactly are

1:27:19you asking for a restaurant?

1:27:21>> Yes. So, first I want to thank everybody

1:27:24for the opportunity to speak before you

1:27:26today with our night application for

1:27:28>> speaking to the mic

1:27:30>> for a restaurant retail beer license.

1:27:33Our vision is to establish a welcoming

1:27:35bar and grill that offers quality food

1:27:39specialty cocktails and entertainment in

1:27:41a safe and professionally managed

1:27:44environment.

1:27:47We plan on being a family establishment.

1:27:50We don't plan on doing illicit business

1:27:53or allowing anything of that sort. This

1:27:56is meant to be a place where families

1:27:58can come together and the community can

1:27:59come together.

1:28:05>> Okay. Now, let me ask you a question cuz

1:28:07when I first uh saw this, it was more of

1:28:10a restaurant uh kind of like a

1:28:12Applebee's or Chili's. So, when you say

1:28:14a bar in the grill now, you know,

1:28:16>> I don't play games. You know, you say

1:28:18you got to be what you say you going to

1:28:20be.

1:28:20>> Yes, sir. We understand that.

1:28:21>> And if you're not going to be what you

1:28:22say you're going to be, then you're not

1:28:24going to be in business.

1:28:25>> Yes, sir.

1:28:25>> Okay. So, what what will your hours of

1:28:27operation be?

1:28:28>> The hours of operation will be Monday

1:28:30through Sunday. During the week, we plan

1:28:32on closing at 11:00 p.m.

1:28:37>> On the weekend, we plan on closing by

1:28:38midnight.

1:28:41>> So, you're going to be leasing this this

1:28:43property?

1:28:44>> Yes, sir.

1:28:47>> Mr. Mr. President, we need clarification

1:28:49on the hours cuz she said Monday through

1:28:51Sunday 11:00 p.m. and on the weekends at

1:28:54midnight.

1:28:56>> Yes. So to clarify that, that would only

1:28:59be Friday and Saturday at midnight.

1:29:01>> Okay.

1:29:01>> The rest of the days we'll be closing at

1:29:0311:00 p.m.

1:29:05>> Thank you.

1:29:05>> Okay. All right. All right.

1:29:08>> What time do you Mr. President, what

1:29:11time do you open, ma'am?

1:29:12>> At noon.

1:29:13>> At noon.

1:29:14>> Yes. So, we'll be serving lunch and

1:29:16we'll be open for families.

1:29:18>> Okay.

1:29:19>> All right. This is the the public hand.

1:29:22Okay. I declare the public hand is held

1:29:23proper for the council. Uh council is in

1:29:26my

1:29:29and basically the pictures that I saw

1:29:32these earlier. I just had some

1:29:33reservation about where we at right now.

1:29:35We're going to

1:29:36>> move forward on that. Um

1:29:39>> I'm going to make them I'm going to ask

1:29:40that. Yeah. Mr. through it. We going

1:29:42You'll know what I just asked you to do,

1:29:44right?

1:29:44>> Okay.

1:29:44>> Did you pass the gavl to eight or

1:29:47>> h

1:29:47>> Did you pass the gavvel to eight or is

1:29:49he going to make the motion?

1:29:51>> I Yeah, he passed it.

1:29:52>> Yeah, I passed the gate.

1:29:54>> Okay. All right.

1:29:55>> All right. So, you know, I I really have

1:29:56some reservations and concerns about

1:29:58that and I understand um the daycare

1:30:01being there and and nothing against you

1:30:03or nothing but about what your plans are

1:30:04with this business going forward. But I

1:30:07know the problems and the situation I

1:30:08had with the one previous and then with

1:30:10the club that I have we have already in

1:30:12that shopping center. I don't want to

1:30:13saturate another bar in GR. I will help

1:30:16you try to find another location within

1:30:18the district. I just think that's not

1:30:19the right place for it at this time.

1:30:21>> Yes.

1:30:21>> So I'm going to ask I'm going to make a

1:30:23motion to deny.

1:30:24>> Going to have to suspend the rules

1:30:25first.

1:30:26>> I need to suspend the rules.

1:30:28>> Oh god. I'm waiting on Aiden to ask me a

1:30:29question. [laughter]

1:30:31>> Need a motion to suspend the rules.

1:30:33>> Uh have a I make a motion to suspend the

1:30:35rules. All

1:30:36>> in favor, please raise your hand.

1:30:39>> Unanimous.

1:30:40>> Make a motion to deny.

1:30:43>> I need a motion to deny.

1:30:46>> Who made it?

1:30:47>> All in favor denial. Please raise your

1:30:49hand.

1:30:51>> Unanimous. The resolution is denied.

1:30:54>> Thank you guys so much.

1:30:55>> Hey, let's talk. I have your number on

1:30:58here. I'll reach out to you. See, we can

1:30:59find another location. I just think

1:31:00that's a bad location. Nothing against

1:31:01your business. I just think that we need

1:31:03to just find another location.

1:31:04>> Okay. Thank you so much.

1:31:06>> Item 25, resolution concurring in the

1:31:09reappointment Albert Holloway to the

1:31:11joint public charity hospital board.

1:31:15>> Now you can do all.

1:31:17>> All right. Need a motion to suspend the

1:31:18rules for the remainder of agenda.

1:31:20>> Need a motion to spend the motion to

1:31:22spend the rules for the rest of the

1:31:23agenda.

1:31:24>> Please raise your hand.

1:31:26>> Unanimous.

1:31:32>> Made a motion to adopt. Motion to adopt.

1:31:35>> That's on the uh reappoint, right?

1:31:37>> Yes, sir. Number 25.

1:31:39>> I want the council to be aware this is a

1:31:40joint appointment with the city and the

1:31:42county.

1:31:44>> So, you know how we work together. It's

1:31:45a joint appointment that we're putting

1:31:47on here. I got you.

1:31:50>> Do we need a motion?

1:31:52>> Motion to adopt.

1:31:53>> Have a motion to adopt. All in favor,

1:31:55please raise your hand.

1:31:57>> Unanimous resolution is adopted. 26.

1:32:01Resolution concurring in the

1:32:02reappointment of Robert Steinorf to the

1:32:04Joint Public Charity Hospital Board.

1:32:06>> Need a motion.

1:32:07>> Motion to adopt.

1:32:08>> All in favor, please raise your hand.

1:32:10>> Unanimous. Resolution is adopted. 27.

1:32:14Resolution appointing mayor or position

1:32:17to the emergency communications district

1:32:19board of commissioners.

1:32:20>> Motion to adopt. Have

1:32:21>> a motion to adopt. All in favor, please

1:32:23raise your hand.

1:32:24>> Unanimous. Resolution is adopted. 28.

1:32:28Appeal of proposed demolition at 3502

1:32:31Clear View Street by SB ND LLC.

1:32:37>> A motion,

1:32:38>> Mr. President.

1:32:39>> Mr.

1:32:40>> I had a message from them. I believe

1:32:42they live in Florida and she said they

1:32:44weren't going to be able to be here. So,

1:32:46it's the will of the council. Do you

1:32:47want to carry on?

1:32:48>> Motion to uphold.

1:32:49>> Motion to uphold.

1:32:51>> Have a motion to uphold. All in favor,

1:32:52please raise your hand.

1:32:54>> Unanimous.

1:32:5829 pursuant to section 1153B1

1:33:01code of Alabama authorization of

1:33:03demolition of unsafe structures at

1:33:04listed locations.

1:33:07Need

1:33:07>> a motion.

1:33:08>> Motion to adopt.

1:33:09>> All in favor, please raise your hand.

1:33:12>> Unanimous.

1:33:1430. Resolution designating nuisance

1:33:16abatement agents.

1:33:18>> Motion.

1:33:19>> Motion to adopt.

1:33:20>> All in favor, please raise your hand.

1:33:23>> Unanimous resolution is adopted. 31.

1:33:26Resolution declaring, authorizing, and

1:33:28assessing the cost of abatement of

1:33:30public distances on various lots.

1:33:32>> Motion to adopt.

1:33:33>> Motion to adopt. All please raise your

1:33:35hand.

1:33:38>> Unanimous resolution is adopted.

1:33:42M

1:33:42>> Miss Bllelock,

1:33:43>> I want to change my vote on number one

1:33:45to no.

1:33:47It's not going to affect anything, but

1:33:48just a no. On

1:33:49>> you'd have to make a motion to

1:33:51reconsider it and then retake the vote.

1:33:53>> Oh, never mind.

1:33:56Jesus.

1:33:58>> This train going to keep on rolling.

1:34:01Jesus.

1:34:02>> All right.

1:34:04Council member have anything before we

1:34:06move into our public communication?

1:34:09>> I do.

1:34:10>> Yes, ma'am. Thank you.

1:34:12>> Good evening everyone. I just want to

1:34:14say thank you all. Um, you know, at the

1:34:17last meeting, we had a gentleman that

1:34:18was in a a serious financial um,

1:34:21situation. And I want to tell you,

1:34:24neighbors helping neighbors really

1:34:26showed up. I understand that several

1:34:28people came forward to say that they

1:34:30would be willing to help him. And I have

1:34:32another group out there as well who are

1:34:34they're currently raising funds to help

1:34:37this gentleman. So, I just want to thank

1:34:38you all for answering the call. And I

1:34:41know we can't help everybody all the

1:34:43time, but thank you for helping this

1:34:44gentleman. So I really do appreciate

1:34:46that. Thank you so very much.

1:34:54>> Okay. in our public communication. Oh

1:34:56no, they didn't.

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